What is the refresh timer on the "first time" XP bonus for crafting a recipe.

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  1. spainchaud

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    I tried waiting 6 days and that was not long enough.
     
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    There isnt one. But it does hit a minimum ammount, and its still a decent ammount for high end stuff
     
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    The first time you craft a recipe you get a big XP bonus. You also get smaller XP bonuses for the 2nd and 3rd time. After a certain amount of time you are eligible to get the bonuses again. I know the time is longer than 6 days, but I don't know exactly how many days it is. That is what I am asking about.
     
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    Oh, if they do come back after a while, im unaware of it.
     
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    Good question. It definitely comes back but I don't know how long to wait.
     
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    I don't think this comes back ever, if I'm honest.
    We've seen the ability to get it again on some recipes when those recipes underwent a change, such as the bear hat becoming bear headdress.
    Also making glass using different 'flavors' of gem fragments as the ingredient triggered it again, that sort of thing.
    But there are things I made way back at the start of the game that haven't yielded 'more xp' again even after leaving it a year. At least, not that I noticed. I sometimes go months between making a specific item, but never really noticed a big XP infusion other than the 'first few ever'


    I'd love dev clarity here.
     
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    I feel like I've noticed it come back after a certain time as well. But it's really hard to quantify without further dev clarification.
     
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    As far as I know: The reset happens with every monthly release (R57, R58 and so on).
     
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    That simply can't be the case, on 'high value' items (like, warlock chains when they were first introduced) I never, not a month later, or a year later, ever got anywhere near the same XP as the first couple times.
    Unless certain items are exempt, which I suppose is possible.

    I have only ever confirmed seeing this value refresh if the recipe underwent a change.

    Its something I'll certainly watch for come Thursday's patch.
     
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    I also think it came back once - at least for recipes which I "discovered" (in former times you could discover even higher level recipes), could be because of the discovery change though.
    Have not noticed any refresh recently
     
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    I'm guessing that those who thought it "came back" was due to getting an exceptional (which adds an xp bonus).

    I've been playing this game since 2015 and have done tons of crafting... and I've never seen a refresh on first time crafting bonus. It happened after the wipes back in pre-release, but never since persistence to my knowledge.
     
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    What Daxxe said.

    I crafted more than 10 warlock necklaces (can't remember now exactly how many) and I have never seen the same "first time craft" xp after the first one.
     
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    Been crafting for over 2 years now, still waiting on that refresh.
    Just go out and mine some ore, skin some game and cut down some trees.
     
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    As i take notes about my crafting XP I can say that the R57 did reset my recipes to 0 tries
    (skill minimum 1 and up to 40 - sorry no warlock chain for me as of yet to verify that and I don't have the ingredients to do my 50-100 skill requirements recipes more than one time each iteration possible for items I dont need/want)

    and I did get the full XP-Bonus for first crafting again
    First = 20 x Base XP
    Batch Crafting = Max(Base XP; 1/2 Single Crafting XP) - edited typo Max not Min!
    Exceptional = 5 x Single Crafting XP
    Single Crafting XP = function of numbers of crafting tries (max 31 then Base XP is reached)

    and I also keep track of which recipe I did with which ingredients how many times (e.g. pine/maple wood, copper/iron metal, leather/cloth and all variants thereof)

    and it happened for all my accounts and this was the third time it happened to me in the last 6 months (but I have no clue about the reason for the first 2)
     
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    Interesting data Rentier.

    If happened with r57 might be a new bug? ... what a surprise :D
     
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    I definitely had a 'reset' on old recipes. I have been trying to figure out when it happened and believe it was several months ago when there was a major change to the crafting system (though I forget what that was without looking things up).

    @Rentier
    2nd craft is also 20x base. 3rd craft is much less.
    It is helpful to note that exceptional is 5x xp depending on which craft time.
    Example: Tabletop catapult
    Craft 1: 20k normal, 100k exceptional
    Craft 2: 20k normal, 100k exceptional
    Craft 3: 3636 normal, 18k exceptional

    By your numbers, I guess base is 1k, I have not done enough with the same materials to see.
     
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    I need to make more catapults!
     
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    I think it might come back if you use your one-time quest reset, otherwise nope.
     
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    I have never notices a refresh. But like others said, there is a separate count for each combination of materials for a single recipe. Like if you use iron/copper bindnings, maple/pine boards etc.
     
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    I think recipes reset if you do the one-time quest reset. Otherwise, I'm convinced it's an urban legend.
     
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