Some npc building items are not marked as private property.

I noticed a lot of NPC building items, particularly in remote towns are not marked as private property.

Is this intentional or not?

You can go around stealing the weapons used as wall decorations, scrap them, then sell the scrap (or use it for crafting) for instance. You can also go take the randomly generated stuff in all the containers in those houses, which can be sold directly or used for scrap.

Bandit houses and abandoned houses in adventuring areas should obviously not be considered private property, and the same goes with other abandoned houses, as well as crates and chests on abandoned broken carts. (Adventuring areas need more of the later.)

Edit:

System info and generic bug rep of one such location:

Code:

01/16/2019 17:14
Title: Some NPC structures do not have items marked as private property
Reproduction Rate: 100%
Blocker?
Details: NPC property is normally marked as private property so it is a virtue penalty of stealing to take them.  Not all areas are marked as such.
Steps to Reproduce: Go to certain areas in some towns  and mouseover items.  They are not listed as private property and thus can be taken without being considered stealing. See attached location for example.  See Attached pastebin post for a longer list of locations.
User Specs:
OS: Linux 4.15 Ubuntu 18.04 64bit
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X Quad-Core Processor (8) System RAM: 16032
GPU: AMD Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics (POLARIS10, DRM 3.23.0, 4.15.0-43-generic, LLVM 8.0.0) GPU RAM: 7844
SotA.Linux.64.892.Date.01.08.19
Area: PRT_grassland_metropolis_01/Anseldale
Area Display Name: Anseldale
Loc: (-32.6, 38.3, -193.3)
Debug: UFJUX2dyYXNzbGFuZF9tZXRyb3BvbGlzXzAxfEFuc2VsZGFsZXwoLTMyLjU4OSwgMzguMzAzLCAtMTkzLjI3KXwoMCwgLTAuMjEyLCAwLCAwLjk3Nyl8Njk1Ljg2MzV8MzIuOTg4MjR8Mi4zNzE2Njc=

 

@AoiBlue, please use the /bug command in game to generate a report with location information when you see these items and post it here so the devs know specifically the locations they need to change items at.

 

OK, I was thinking of making an in-game index book of them as well, noting which ones I get a reply back as being intentional. (Obviously bandit villages are meant not to be marked as private property.)

The biggest place I noticed is Celestia has only the bank marked as private property. This means all the decor is able to be "acquisitioned" by "creative players" right in front of the NPCs.

Most notable is some 30 scrap worth of weapons in the walls of the weapon smith and training buildings, and a bunch of jars in the alchemist's building by the scale. (Very useful items.)

 

I noticed in the latest minor patch, a couple of the locations already got fixed. I haven't checked celestia since the latest minor patch. I'm not sure what changed in that patch. It's still listed as R61, but there were a few gigabytes of download from steam, so I suspect minor game-data patches.

 

I'm going to put the list up on pastebin:

https://pastebin.com/V0qQ5msa

 

Why pastebin?
just add it here in the bug thread.

Also note to you, when creating a bug report you need to add the output of /bug in your main thread. It makes it easier for the devs to create a Jira ticket from.

Code:

Locations with items not marked private property:


01/13/2019
User Specs:
OS: Linux 4.15 Ubuntu 18.04 64bit
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X Quad-Core Processor (8) System RAM: 16032
GPU: AMD Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics (POLARIS10, DRM 3.23.0, 4.15.0-43-generic, LLVM 8.0.0) GPU RAM: 7944
SotA.Linux.64.892.Date.01.08.19

Brittany Estates Guard House (east gate)
Area: Novia_R3_City_Brittany_Estates
Area Display Name: Brittany Estates
Loc: (500.5, 74.3, 196.1)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjNfQ2l0eV9Ccml0dGFueV9Fc3RhdGVzfHwoNTAwLjUzNCwgNzQuMjczLCAxOTYuMDkzKXwoMCwgLTAuOTkyLCAwLCAtMC4xMjMpfDE2NC40NjQ1fDMxLjg3ODczfDEuMjU=

Brittany Estates House by Bridge (North Side of Road)
Area: Novia_R3_City_Brittany_Estates
Area Display Name: Brittany Estates
Loc: (188.0, 58.6, 194.3)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjNfQ2l0eV9Ccml0dGFueV9Fc3RhdGVzfHwoMTg3Ljk2NSwgNTguNjI1LCAxOTQuMjk2KXwoMCwgMC43MzksIDAsIC0wLjY3Myl8LTcuNTU5ODE1fDIwLjgzNDI4fDEuMjU=

Brittany Estates House by Bridge (South side of road)
Area: Novia_R3_City_Brittany_Estates
Area Display Name: Brittany Estates
Loc: (188.0, 58.4, 161.7)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjNfQ2l0eV9Ccml0dGFueV9Fc3RhdGVzfHwoMTg3Ljk4OCwgNTguNDQ0LCAxNjEuNzAyKXwoMCwgLTAuODI2LCAwLCAtMC41NjQpfC0yNDguMzM0OXwxNy42NjMxMnwxLjI1

Brittany Estates Crafting Building
Area: Novia_R3_City_Brittany_Estates
Area Display Name: Brittany Estates
Loc: (138.6, 52.5, 164.5)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjNfQ2l0eV9Ccml0dGFueV9Fc3RhdGVzfHwoMTM4LjYyNiwgNTIuNTIxLCAxNjQuNTI1KXwoMCwgLTAuOTA0LCAwLCAtMC40MjcpfC05NTAuMzQ5NnwyNi40OTMzOHwxLjI1

Brittany Estates Inn
Area: Novia_R3_City_Brittany_Estates
Area Display Name: Brittany Estates
Loc: (73.5, 52.5, 119.1)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjNfQ2l0eV9Ccml0dGFueV9Fc3RhdGVzfHwoNzMuNDk0LCA1Mi41MjEsIDExOS4wODUpfCgwLCAtMC42OSwgMCwgMC43MjQpfC0xNTI3LjE5MXw1MC41NDQxOXwxLjI1

Brittany Estates Real Estate Office
Area: Novia_R3_City_Brittany_Estates
Area Display Name: Brittany Estates
Loc: (78.8, 54.8, 78.8)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjNfQ2l0eV9Ccml0dGFueV9Fc3RhdGVzfHwoNzguNzU2LCA1NC44LCA3OC44NDYpfCgwLCAwLjcwNSwgMCwgMC43MDkpfC05OTAuMzY3MXw0My45NTYzNHwxLjI1


Brittany Estates Blacksmith
Area: Novia_R3_City_Brittany_Estates
Area Display Name: Brittany Estates
Loc: (60.8, 54.9, 82.2)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjNfQ2l0eV9Ccml0dGFueV9Fc3RhdGVzfHwoNjAuNzk2LCA1NC44NjYsIDgyLjI0NCl8KDAsIC0wLjk2NSwgMCwgLTAuMjYyKXw4NzAuMDg4fDUyLjYxMzMxfDEuMzc=

Brittany Estates Alchemist/Magic
Area: Novia_R3_City_Brittany_Estates
Area Display Name: Brittany Estates
Loc: (32.8, 54.8, 123.4)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjNfQ2l0eV9Ccml0dGFueV9Fc3RhdGVzfHwoMzIuNzUzLCA1NC44MTcsIDEyMy4zNTkpfCgwLCAtMC4wOTYsIDAsIDAuOTk1KXwxNDI5LjAxN3wyMS40OTMzOXwxLjI1

Brittany Estates Bank
Area: Novia_R3_City_Brittany_Estates
Area Display Name: Brittany Estates
Loc: (31.3, 52.8, 83.3)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjNfQ2l0eV9Ccml0dGFueV9Fc3RhdGVzfHwoMzEuMzI4LCA1Mi43NTgsIDgzLjI5OCl8KDAsIDAuOTg3LCAwLCAwLjE2MSl8MTk3OS44NTZ8NTMuNjIzMTJ8MS4yNQ==

Brittany Estates Guild Registrar
Area: Novia_R3_City_Brittany_Estates
Area Display Name: Brittany Estates
Loc: (-115.8, 46.1, 45.6)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjNfQ2l0eV9Ccml0dGFueV9Fc3RhdGVzfHwoLTExNS44MzYsIDQ2LjA4MywgNDUuNjMpfCgwLCAwLjMxMywgMCwgMC45NSl8MTQ3Ni43NTl8MzAuODUxNzl8MS4yNQ==

Central Brittany Unknown NPC Building.
Area: Novia_R3_City_Brittany
Area Display Name: Central Brittany
Loc: (78.9, 25.5, -118.2)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjNfQ2l0eV9Ccml0dGFueXx8KDc4LjkxMywgMjUuNTEsIC0xMTguMjQ2KXwoMCwgMC4zNDksIDAsIC0wLjkzNyl8NDE2LjI2NDF8MjQuMjg1NjJ8MS4yNQ==


Central Brittany Oracle Confirmatory
Area: Novia_R3_City_Brittany
Area Display Name: Central Brittany
Loc: (256.2, 64.6, 177.6)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjNfQ2l0eV9Ccml0dGFueXx8KDI1Ni4xNTksIDY0LjU5LCAxNzcuNTk3KXwoMCwgMC4xNjgsIDAsIC0wLjk4Nil8MzQwLjY0Mzl8MzEuODkzNjN8MS4yNQ==

Central Brittany Brittany Castle
Area: Novia_R3_City_Brittany
Area Display Name: Central Brittany
Loc: (204.1, 61.6, 95.1)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjNfQ2l0eV9Ccml0dGFueXx8KDIwNC4xMjIsIDYxLjU3NSwgOTUuMTEyKXwoMCwgLTAuMzI3LCAwLCAwLjk0NSl8MTQwMi4yOTV8MjkuMTY0NTd8MS4yNQ==

 

I should add the top list there.

However, the full output is very long, and I'm still working on adding to it. I added another location today, for instance.

Pastebin lets me update it easily.

As a note, I gave one example in the post, per your point of providing enough information to easily open an initial bug-rep. I suspect this will be a long-term maintenance task, though to be added to their regular level QA checks.

 

First off make sure it is a bug, just picking things up has never been a bug.

It affects your Karma

Most likely you are reporting things that are non issues,

need to do a true bug report and get an answer before you keep taking up time.

 

Yep, I need those steal-able items for my black shroud

 

You can steal them either way. It's a matter of if you can do so in broad daylight and if they affect your virtue rating.

 

When you mouseover private property the cursor turns red. When it is not, it's green. I'm not stupid I know the difference.

It's clearly a bug, especially where it affects every NPC building in a zone, like Brittany Estates.

 

Relax, nobody said you were stupid. We are just trying to help you create a VALID bug report so that your report will be correctly added to the devs their Jira system.
Would be a shame if your bug report gets ignored because of invalid reporting..

 

I'm not complaining about you. You considered my report to be valid, and gave constructive feedback.

Anyhow, if they didn't know if what I was saying was actually true, they could have just visited one of the locations I posted. This would have shown them that it was, in fact, not marked as private property.