Pooled Exp Concerns

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  1. Warrior B'Patrick

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    Greetings all, One thing that may have been overlooked is in crafting.How many of us have alt characters on same account? How many of us don't train un-needed skills? Well not you can craft all those first items and get the bonus exp to go into your pool then use that pooled exp to raise your main. I like the pooled exp. My alts will now get training in skills they would not have but only if it raises the pool instead of lowers it.
     
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    The first-time bonus is for your account, not each avatar.
     
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    Greetings Barugon
    The recipe list on each alt is different. I assumed... that the first time made on each alt would triger the first time bonus. Thanks for the info. Still holds that anything that increases pooled experience, like crafting exceptional items, that is done on alts helps raise the pool. Or maybe raising the alts skills is not as time effective as doing it on your main. I know running my new alts thru the starting area gains pooled exp fairly fast. I will test this when R65 goes live and see.
     
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    Sometimes I wonder why some people play the game when all they do is claim every decision is the nail in the coffin for the game. As for the OP, how you explained it is not how it works. It follows Richard's believe that all avatars on one account is the same person.
     
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    Okay I really don't want to interrupt the next mindless rant but....just for the case people forgot: we can't make unlimited toons on one account. Hell most players can't have more than one or two.
    Can we finally stop beeing overly dramatic about every minor change? That is really tiresome and it gets old fast.
     
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    I agree with you Earl Atogrim von Draken
    Most accounts have 1 Character on it. I was actually talking about my account and how if it was possible that with 3 characters on my founders account I could use the other alts to earn extra pooled exp for my main. It was a happy thought for me, no ranting involved. I am happy with the game and although wish some things could be done different I also realize this is not an mass marketed game with a large DEV group. I have always been taught to offer constructive criticism and if things don't go your way find another things to have fun with. I am only 1 of 100,000 or more playing and offering ideas for this game.

    I also agree there is too much negative discussion on things that you as a player can not change. Enjoy the game for what it is, an ever evolving world that always has new things to explore or try.
     
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    no.

     
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    "Mindless rant" ?
    Excuse me, your Earlness, but 5 bucks get's an alt on your account:

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    So, the current conversation is far from a "mindless rant".
    "Mindless", in this case, would be when a person doesn't remember or doesn't know that 5 bucks gets an alt.
     
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    100,000 playing the game and using the forums ? :confused:
    If only that were so. ;)
     
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    I think when the specialization in producer is out, Polarium doesn't limit the Specialization to one.
    No sense to limit to one if the producer pool is shared. Only to force user to switch between chars.
     
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    I guess we'll have to wait and see, but they have stated that it is to be only one.

    IE, on 28 March, DarkStarr's Q2 2019 Update clearly says:

    Here's the link.
     
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    So what, your Forstness? They paid for it. How much time do you think the average SotA player has?
    It is a mindless rant because it's a god damned non issue. Blown totally out of proportion by the always same people. Again.
    May 0,001% get something out of this change? Yes, maybe. I still doubt it but hey, courtesty of doubt.
    In addition: that plan isn't new. It's age old. Just seems like they needed a lot of time to impliment it.
    My only surprise here is that it took them so long.
     
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    I was merely quoting what YOU stated as the reason behind your mindless rant comment, as is clearly shown by the quote.
    On the other hand, I agree that it is much to do about nothing - which is why I made my prior posts to clear up a couple of misconceptions about sharing xp pools, adv level, etc.
    The OP is simply way off base in his projection of doom here.
     
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    The point of adding crafting specialisation was to limit players from crafting everything with one account. Everyone complained alot about that .... with that in mind Specialisation was suppose to be a big change . Whats changed now ? Instead of being a big change it will be a minor change ..since players will still be able to craft everything with 1 account ...only difference is now they have to pay port 5 bucks for every specialisation they want to pick . :)
     
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    Pretty much, but you are forgetting how difficult and tedious it is to build your Producer XP pool.
    You can have 2nd, 3rd alts to specialize in BS or Carp, etc. but one of YOUR chars has to do the tedium involved in building the xp pool to raise not only the preliminary skills, but also the specialization itself... Very xp expensive, and will certainly not happen overnight.
    Most peeps will not bother specing several crafting skills just to make their own stuff, because it's so damn time-consuming... :eek:

    So, once again, let's not get all gloomy and doomy, ok ? ;)
     
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    That seems to be a missunderstanding.
    Specialisation was added so you could actually pick the bonuses you wanted and to remove the randomness (which was what the players where complaining about. Though i fully admit I of course have seen complaints about the everybody is able to do everything thing).
    So no connection between those two topics.
     
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    Correct
     
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    I don't agree. Currently the discussion is to limit specialization to one chars, not account (during discussion last year Chris say as Adventurer but only 1).
    But that is possible that limitation will be change to one account, but that is not nice for people than me I have created multiple chars in one account to have all specialization (each chars are one). I have started to create the pool middle last year. Now I need to restart with multiple accounts.

    That is relevant inside this discussion if the limit is on one by chars, but not relevant if that is one account.
     
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    whats the issue here? it means that you share the POOL, not your SKILLS. you share the adventure pool and share the producer pool.
    you still have to raise up the skills in each character.
    the characters ALREADY share the ownership of houses, the guild titles, ect.
    sharing the gold means that you dont have to mail it to your other character anymore.
    so whats the big deal?
    sharing pools makes it easier to raise characters up, but you still have to do it with each character.
     
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    I disagree.
    Fact is: specialization is happeneing because crafters are tired of the randomness. Nothing more, nothing less.
    Regarding
    yeah well you had no specialization before. If they make it account bound you at least have one (and still the rest of your multiple non spec GMs). So you still win.
    Imo you are mixing up things on the fly.
     
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