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Make Decorations Stackable

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    Please make decorations and other in game items stack whenever possible.

    There are currently a lot of decorations taking up much more space than needed in banks and containers because duplicates do not stack.
    Identical copies of the same item should usually stack.

    Please remove the Maker's Mark from all crafted furniture and decorations so they can stack.
    Only crafted armor and weapons should have a Maker's Mark.

    All dyeable deco should stack until it is dyed, like the dyeable eggs currently do.

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    The only decorations that should not stack are:

    - Armor, Weapons, and Tools with durability
    - Decorations that have been dyed
    - Trophy animals and fish with size data
    - Replenishing items that track replenishment status
    - Decoration Pets that can be renamed
    - Containers
    - Equipable items, such as offhand items and musical instruments
    - Possibly writing materials, but hopefully a solution can be found to stack them, see below.
    - Possibly planters, but hopefully a solution can be found to stack them, see below.
    - Possibly drinking vessels, but hopefully a solution can be found to stack them, see below.

    - Phonographs
    Phonographs should be updated to hold audio cylinder(s) that have been inserted for playback,
    instead of just playing audio cylinders from player inventory.
    Countach Phonograph
    Dual Wax Cylinder Phonograph
    Ornate Dual Wax Cylinder Phonograph
    Phonograph
    Wooden Phonograph

    - Animal skin rugs made with pristine trophy heads
    If the pristine animal heads are updated with trophy size data,
    then the animal skin rugs should scale with the trophy size.
    (The Maker's Mark should still be removed from animal skin rugs and other trophy items,
    since what's important is who caught the trophy, not who the taxidermist was.)
    Animal skin rugs that do not use trophy head size data should stack.
    Examples:
    Cow Skin Rug (remove maker's mark, should stack)
    Deer Skin Rug (remove maker's mark, should stack)
    Patriarch Bear Skin Rug (remove maker's mark, trophy size scale, does not stack)
    Timber Wolf Skin Rug (remove maker's mark, trophy size scale, does not stack)

    All other decorations not listed above should stack.

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    - All of the Chimney deco pieces now stack, Thank you developers!
    However, Chimney pieces crafted before the update do not stack with Chimney pieces crafted after the update.
    Please make Chimney pieces crafted before and after the update stack together.

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    Here is a list (incomplete) of items that should stack:

    - Furniture and other deco that should stack:

    Wishing Well
    Water Well (remove maker's mark)

    Ornate Wall Mailbox
    Ornate Post-Mounted Mailbox
    Simple Wooden Mailbox (remove maker's mark)
    Post-Mounted Mailbox (remove maker's mark)

    Stone & Wood Fireplace (remove maker's mark)
    Stone Fireplace (remove maker's mark)
    Antique Chair (remove maker's mark)
    Antique Coffee Table (remove maker's mark)
    Antique Curved Armchair (remove maker's mark)
    Antique Dining Chair (remove maker's mark)
    Antique Dining Table (remove maker's mark)
    Antique Hallway Table (remove maker's mark)
    Antique Round End Table (remove maker's mark)
    Carved Oak Sidetable (remove maker's mark)
    Carved Oak Weapon Rack (remove maker's mark)
    Elven Chandelier (remove maker's mark)
    Elven Floor Lamp (remove maker's mark)
    Elven Streetlamp (remove maker's mark)
    Elven Table Lamp (remove maker's mark)
    Elven Wall Sconce (remove maker's mark)
    Porcelain Bathtub (remove maker's mark)
    Wooden Bathtub (remove maker's mark)
    Wooden Hot Tub (remove maker's mark)
    Tavern Counter (remove maker's mark)
    Tavern Counter (Flipped) (remove maker's mark)
    Tavern Counter with Gate (remove maker's mark)
    Wall Mirror (remove maker's mark)
    Wooden Round Table (remove maker's mark)
    Tombstone (remove maker's mark)
    Castle Banner (remove maker's mark)
    Free Standing Long Banner (remove maker's mark)
    Free Standing Short Banner (remove maker's mark)
    Long Banner (remove maker's mark)
    Short Banner (remove maker's mark)
    Kobold Chandelier (remove maker's mark)
    Shogun Lightstring (remove maker's mark)
    Barn Stall (remove maker's mark)
    Bleachers (remove maker's mark)
    Clock Tower (remove maker's mark)
    Gustball Field (remove maker's mark)
    Gustball Field Tower (remove maker's mark)
    Large Windmill Power Generator (remove maker's mark)
    Rusted Iron Greenhouse (remove maker's mark)
    Small Stone Ruins (remove maker's mark)
    Stage (remove maker's mark)
    Stage Stairs (remove maker's mark)
    Tall Barn Stall (remove maker's mark)
    Tent (remove maker's mark)
    Thin Barn Stall (remove maker's mark)
    Water Platform (remove maker's mark)
    Wood-Framed Novia Painting (remove maker's mark)
    Antique Clay Pot (remove maker's mark)

    Grand Piano (remove maker's mark)
    Harpsichord (remove maker's mark)
    Kettle Drum (remove maker's mark)
    Large Harp (remove maker's mark)
    Piano (remove maker's mark)

    Yule Wreath 2016 (remove maker's mark)
    Yule Wreath 2017 (remove maker's mark)

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    - Packaged rewards, please make stack if possible:
    Obsidian Potion Reward
    Subscriber Reward Bundle (Rxx)

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    Unlike other cooking ingredients, alcohol brewing ingredients currently do not stack.
    They are usually created in large batches, and sometimes need to be stored until a batch of casks is available to make the alcohol.
    So the alcohol ingredients end up taking a lot of extra space in containers.

    Please make the alcohol brewing ingredients stack if possible:

    Brittany Ale Ingredients
    Drach Bock Beer Ingredients
    Edelmann Beer Ingredients
    Harvest Wheat Beer Ingredients
    Perennial Red Wine Ingredients
    Paladis White Wine Ingredients
    2 Year Whiskey Ingredients
    7 Year Whiskey Ingredients
    25 Year Whiskey Ingredients

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    - Please remove the container from these No Trade decorations and make them stack:
    Fine Oak Bookshelves Full (A)
    Fine Oak Bookshelves Full (B)
    Fine Oak Bookshelves Full (C)
    Fine Oak Bookshelves Full (D)
    Fine Oak Bookshelves Half Full (A)
    Fine Oak Bookshelves Half Full (B)
    Fine Oak Bookshelves Half Full (C)
    Fine Oak Bookshelves Half Full (D)

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    Writing materials obviously cannot stack after being written in, but would it be possible to make them stack when they are blank?

    - Blank writing materials, make stack if possible:
    Blank Book (remove maker's mark)
    Blank Bulletin Board Flyer (remove maker's mark)
    Blank Sheet of Paper
    Blank Sheet Music (remove maker's mark)
    Blank Valentine's Day 2016 Card
    Blank Valentine's Day 2017 Card
    Blank Valentine's Day 2019 Card
    Blank Yule Card 2017
    Blank Yule Card 2018
    Blank Yule Card 2020 A
    Blank Yule Card 2020 B

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    Planters obviously cannot stack after a plant has been planted in them, but would it be possible to make them stack when they are empty?

    - Planters, make stack if possible:
    Large Planting Bed
    Medium Planting Bed
    Small Planting Bed
    Planting Barrel
    Planting Pot

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    Starting in R55, drinking vessels were made equipable and were no longer able to stack.
    Could drinking vessels be changed so they are only equipable after being filled with a beverage at the cooking station?
    Or could empty drinking vessels be updated some other way to make them stack again?
    Please make empty drinking vessels stack again if possible.

    - Drinking vessels, make stack if possible:
    Ceramic Cup
    Ceramic Goblet
    Ceramic Mug
    Earthenware Bierkrug
    Gold Goblet
    Ornate Porcelain Regalis Brittany Bierkrug
    Ornate Saltglaze Drachvald Eastmarch Bierkrug
    Pewter Cup
    Pewter Mug
    Silver Goblet
    Silver Virtuekrug
    Small Blue Cylinder
    Tea Cup
    Wooden Mug
    Glowing mugs (ex. chaos mug)

    References for drinking vessel change:

    https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/release-55-instructions.131969/
    Release 55 Instructions
    Discussion in 'Announcements' started by DarkStarr, Jun 27, 2018.
    Merchant & Drink Adjustments for Brewing: As part of brewing we have made a few changes to drinks, drink containers, and merchant inventories. We have separated consumable drinks from equippable mugs. This means you can still equip an item that looks like a drink but it will no longer have anything in it. For instance a Mug of Ale will now be an actual consumable like food versus a Mug which you can equip and display. Merchants now sell both equippable/deco mugs and “cheap alcohol” that is shorter in duration than crafted alcohol.

    https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/f...ate-decorative-items-items-wont-stack.137297/
    Equipables cannot stack. There were previously two versions of the same items. A deco mug that stacked and an equipable one that did not. Now they can each be used as an equipable or a decoration and each items appears the same in the inventory.
    Bzus, Aug 7, 2018

    https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/f...amic-cup-ceramic-goblet-and-many-more.154697/
    If it can be equipped it cannot stack. These items were switched to not be stackable when the ability to equip them was added.
    Bzus, May 7, 2019

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    The following items now stack. Thanks to the devs for the updates! :)

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    All of the crafted and crown shop Chimney deco pieces now stack.
    (But Chimney pieces crafted before the update do not stack with Chimney pieces crafted after the update.)

    Confection Platter
    Confection Stand
    Fish Throne
    Pipe Organ
    Flesh Flayer decorations
    Ornate Water Platform
    Pirate Banner
    Obsidian Bathtub

    New Britannia Globe
    Blue Cylinder
    Darkstarr Chaos Throne
    Darkstarr Chaos Throne (Reverse Colors)
    Darkstarr Clock Tower
    Darkstarr Clock Tower (Reverse Colors)
    Arrow Trap
    Flame Trap
    Hanging Torture Cage
    Spike Trap
    Torture Chair
    Torture Rack
    Torture Table
    Construction Barricade
    Construction Crane
    Construction Planks
    Construction Ropes
    Construction Scaffold Walkway
    Construction Stone Wagon
    Wind Power Generator
    Universe Broadcast Orb
    R55 Anywhere Lot Deed Raffle Ticket
    R55 POT Lot Deed Raffle Ticket
    Gothic Dining Table
    Gothic King Size Bed with Black Leather
    Gothic Queen Size Bed

    Painting of Cordelayne
    Painting of Crazy Teeka
    Painting of Lady Minerva
    Painting of Lady Shimizu
    Painting of Lord Deiter VomPasker
    Painting of Lord Serion
    Painting of Master of the Mint
    Painting of Master of the Mint #2
    Painting of Rufus
    Painting of Scott Jones
    Painting of Scott Jones w/special frame
    Painting of William
    Ornate Yule Music Box
    Medium Ornate Yule Wreath 2016
    Medium Ornate Yule Wreath 2017
    Medium Ornate Yule Wreath 2018
    Small Ornate Yule Wreath 2016
    Small Ornate Yule Wreath 2017
    Small Ornate Yule Wreath 2018
    Aether Vibration Amplifier

    Large Ornate Cordovan Harp
    Ornate Grand Piano
    Ornate Kettle Drum
    Ornate Pipe Organ
    Ornate Red & Gold Filigree Harpsichord
    Umber Upright Piano

    Epic Snowy Spruce Tree
    1-Story Snowy Spruce Tree
    2-Story Snowy Spruce Tree
    3-Story Snowy Spruce Tree
    4-Story Snowy Spruce Tree

    1-story fall white birch tree
    2-story fall white birch tree
    3-story fall white birch tree
    4-story fall white birch tree

    Ornate Elven Streetlamp
    Kobold Distillation Device
    Kobold Corkscrew Wind Power Generator
    Kobold Wind Power Generator
    Large Adobe Dome
    Large Tiki Statue
    Round Palapa
    Small Adobe Dome
    Virtue Oktoberfest Tent
    Lava Hot Tub
    Lord British Round Table

    Large Ornate Yule Wreath 2016
    Large Ornate Yule Wreath 2017
    Large Ornate Yule Wreath 2018

    Ornate Mantle Garland Strand 2017
    Ornate Mantle Garland Strand 2018
    Ornate Mantle Garland Swag 2017
    Ornate Mantle Garland Swag 2018
    Ornate Wall Garland Strand 2017
    Ornate Wall Garland Strand 2018
    Ornate Wall Garland Swag 2017
    Ornate Wall Garland Swag 2018
    Small Ornate Wall Garland Strand 2017
    Small Ornate Wall Garland Strand 2018
    Small Ornate Wall Garland Swag 2017
    Small Ornate Wall Garland Swag 2018

    Mantle Garland Strand (remove maker's mark)
    Mantle Garland Swag (remove maker's mark)
    Small Wall Garland Strand (remove maker's mark)
    Small Wall Garland Swag (remove maker's mark)
    Wall Garland Strand (remove maker's mark)
    Wall Garland Swag (remove maker's mark)

    Fancy Yellow Streetlamp (and all the other colors)
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    Thank you for your sacrifice.
     
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    Edited main post:
    - Aether consoles (Aether Vibration Device) cannot stack since they can have unique radio station data.
    - Phonographs should not stack if they are updated to hold audio cylinders.
     
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    You can't make crafted items that have a maker's mark (ie, the name of the crafter that made it) stackable. You would lose the uniqueness of that information when stacking.

    Case in point...you can stack crafted beds and they have no maker's mark (doesn't list the name of the crafter that made it). But other items that have the crafter's name cannot be stacked.
     
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    From the main post:
    Please remove the Maker's Mark from crafted furniture and other decorations so they can stack.
    Maker's Mark is really only useful on crafted armor and weapons.
     
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    this is per account.
     
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    Yeah, remove the pointless furniture makers mark, solve 90% of this problem.

    It is inconsistantly applied, the only thing holding for sure is that all furniture that has it is identical to the others (so the mark is pointless) and a giant pain to handle.

    I begged for this years ago, back when antique furniture was coming out btw. Just another symptom of designing from afar but never playing the game you mAke.
     
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    As a furniture maker, I feel that's not cool at all. I take great pride in my work. Harrumph!
     
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    Edited main post, thanks!
     
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    You would be able to sell your funiture in stacks, instead of having to individually list them.

    Plus, half the furniture has no mark anyway. Do you not like making the Canvas stuff because no one knows it is from you?
     
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    As long as items that can be dyed, are interactive, have writing (mouseover text), or have patterns applied retain makers marks, I'm fine with removing them from other deco pieces. They are generic enough, for the most part.
     
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    Canvas furniture can be dyed and has no makers mark. It is also much nicer to deal with because it stacks.
     
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    Ornate Elven Streetlamp does not stack as well but it does not have crafter name issue. Other streetlamps are stackable. Hope SOTA may allow stacking these items
     
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    Edited main post, thanks!
     
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    Again going to put in my two cents that furniture makers marks is a good thing, because furniture makers should be able to take pride in their work. Why should armor, weapons and fish plaques be the only items that get special treatment?
     
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    because those actually have individual differences. two antique chairs made by two different crafters are always exactly the same.
     
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    Because weapons and armor have stat points included in them that can change to the decimal, so someone looking for something crafted by the best in their profession can look at the decimal staat points, compare them, and contact the maker to have an item custom crafted.

    For furniture, You, me, and everyone else here can make the EXACT same furniture, not even a millimeter smaller or bigger, we make exact copies, not similar, COPIES of the items, so what does the makers mark give me as info? That you own the recipe and you spent the time to craft it? If anything, it is the vendor that will attract me again, not the one with the (imo) pointless makers mark on that chair.
     
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    Take pride in your work anyway. But it's exactly the same as mine. And causing a massive inventory management headache.
     
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    Edited main post, thanks!
     
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    What if furniture makers marks could somehow be optionally applied by the crafter during creation or afterwards somehow, just not have it be on default and remove existing ones - everyone kinda wins?

    Alternatively - what if there was a “mark remover” for furniture that people could utilize?
     
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