What happens if you are not Virtuous?

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  1. Jace3

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    With the Oracle and watchers checking you I wondered what happens if you do not live up to the path you have taken? If I decided to loot,steal,rob what ever I can get away with how would that action affect me in the game? What's the punishment or is there even one?

    Would NPC's refuse to sell to me or would prices be higher? Would the result be as a red in UO?
     
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    We get hit with the Oracle's virtue stick!

    Seriously though, I don't think anyone except the dev team knows right now?

    With the robust NPC conversation system, I'm hoping that NPCs can detect one's level of virtue attainment (or not) and react to it appropriately.

    That could be extended to merchants as well, who might charge more for villains as the merchant has to cover their cost of theft somehow.

    I could see it being reflected in a karma / fate system.

    But I'm with you, still wondering about the larger ramifications on game play. Will it be fun to play an anti-virtue character?
     
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    If a virtue system is implemented, I suspect it would behave like a reputation system. Although, the only game mechanics that would likely be dynamic would be the Oracle and quests; quest selection might be based on virtue status.
     
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    You have to decide yourself what virtues and vices you aims for.
     
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    I had a scoundrel in UO as a play once in a while character. He was fun to break out of the nice guy mold once in a while.

    I never stole or snooped players but I sure gave the npc's trouble.
     
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    Haha not going to happen. You will be forced to be a hugbox zombie like all the others!
     
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    What happens if you're not virtuous? Why, the cats in the town scenes die.
     
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    No, the lady who lives in the Oracle comes out puts you over her knee and smacks your fair behind
     
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    When you die, the devil will have your soul, and you'll be tortured by imps and demons in a firey pit.
     
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    So many comebacks coursing through my mind... So many ways to be moderated. :)
     
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    How the story progresses and ends for you is determined by your virtue. What that really means has not been divulged.
     
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    Maybe they can have not so virtuous NPC that you can only deal with.. hmmmm not so virtuous NPC town for not so virtuous avatars. Just a thought.
     
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    Does anyone remember the game Fable? Prime example of a cool system. Your decisions affected even your physical appearance.
     
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    Maybe all the NPC vendors except Three Fingers Laurent will no longer do business with you.
     
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    I like this idea
     
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    You get a "filthy peasant" tag displayed above your character for everyone to see.
     
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    The obvious will occur ...
    * Higher prices for commodities and items from virtuous or positive notoriety based NPC vendors.
    * Possible exclusion , banned , or even kill on site rules for certain NPC , POT , PRT towns.
    * Increase in taxes for property , lot , etc

    Along with the negative will always come the positive ...
    * Certain POT , NPC , PRT towns could be safe havens and or accepting of negative notoriety, possibly even giving benefits to those that choose that path.
    * Surely there will be skills or magic that can only be used or learned by one who chooses " The Dark Side " ;)
     
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    Doesn't sound like punishment to me. Sounds like the start of wee randy frolick. :eek:
     
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    How do we know that the oracle is a good entity? She really hasn't been put into play yet. Maybe she is recruiting for a secret society like the Brotherhood? Muhawaaaa!
     
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