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EXP, $15 per million, other forms of payment in post.

Discussion in 'Vendor Locations & Misc Services' started by Mac2, Oct 9, 2017.

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  1. Jezebel Caerndow

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    [Removed Marketplace Offer] by moderation team
     
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    That includes the whole polearms tree yes?
     
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    All magics, swords, tactics, shields except dig in and shield bash, bows except ammo scavenger and range passive, heavy except absorb impacts taunt and knights grace, light except escape and flurry, focus except mind wipe and quick swap, subterfuge except camouflage, pickpocket, distract and safe fall. No polearms, taming or bludgeon.....yet.
     
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    I do have polearms now except range and the defensive one.
     
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    Lets add pine resin to the list of thing I would trade for.
     
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    Sounds an awful lot like pay to win. Here are the Terms of Service Link ------> https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/?page_id=47863

    Selling XP for actual money. Soon Portal will just sell a million xp as an obsidian potion this is just the beginning.

    Just in case you don't want to read the whole post, I cut out the important part.

    You agree that you will not, under any circumstances,

    • In whole or in part, copy, photocopy, reproduce, translate, reverse engineer, derive source code from, modify, disassemble, decompile, or create derivative works based on the Game Material; provided, however, that you may make copies of the Game Client and the Manuals for personal purposes only;
    • Use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game experience;
    • Exploit the Game or any of its parts, including without limitation the Game Client, for any commercial purpose, including without limitation (a) use at a cyber cafe, computer gaming center or any other location-based site; (b) for gathering in-game virtual, items or resources for sale outside the Game; or (c) performing in-game services in exchange for payment outside the Game, e.g., power-leveling; or (d) participation in the trade of items gained through the means listed above, or any other means violating this agreement.

    Exploiting the fact the monkeys can't hit the person being power-leveled, but this person is still receiving XP. No risk to the person being power-leveled and charging the person real money to receive the power-leveling service.
     
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    All in game stuff and no different then the $15- $17 per 100k gold that's being sold and advertised, for quite some time. Hell Mac could just change it 100k gold per million and then sell the gold if that makes you feel better. *shrugs* Good luck @Mac2
     
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    a breach of the terms of service is a breach of the terms of service, there is no way around it...
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    he isnt selling for gold...

    "
    You agree that you will not, under any circumstances,

    • In whole or in part, copy, photocopy, reproduce, translate, reverse engineer, derive source code from, modify, disassemble, decompile, or create derivative works based on the Game Material; provided, however, that you may make copies of the Game Client and the Manuals for personal purposes only;
    • Use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game experience;
    • Exploit the Game or any of its parts, including without limitation the Game Client, for any commercial purpose, including without limitation (a) use at a cyber cafe, computer gaming center or any other location-based site; (b) for gathering in-game virtual, items or resources for sale outside the Game; or (c) performing in-game services in exchange for payment outside the Game, e.g., power-leveling; or (d) participation in the trade of items gained through the means listed above, or any other means violating this agreement.
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    Slippery Slope if everything is permissible and nothing is forbidden.
     
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    • In whole or in part, copy, photocopy, reproduce, translate, reverse engineer, derive source code from, modify, disassemble, decompile, or create derivative works based on the Game Material; provided, however, that you may make copies of the Game Client and the Manuals for personal purposes only; He isn't doing this.
    • Use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game experience; He isn't doing this.
    • Exploit the Game or any of its parts, including without limitation the Game Client, for any commercial purpose; He isn't doing this. (a) (b) and (c) don't apply if you're not exploiting the game for commercial purpose which he is not.
     
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    What are you smoking?
    He is selling 1 hour of powerleveling for 15$, which is more than minimum wage. That is commercial. It even specifically says power-leveling...
    You can powerlevel all you want, but when you do it for money in the form of a wage, you are breaching the terms of service. You are arguing pointlessly
     
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    (a) Exploit the Game or any of its parts, including without limitation the Game Client, for use at a cyber cafe, computer gaming center or any other location-based site;
    (b) Exploit the Game or any of its parts, including without limitation the Game Client, for gathering in-game virtual, items or resources for sale outside the Game;
    (c) Exploit the Game or any of its parts, including without limitation the Game Client, for gathering in-game virtual, performing in-game services in exchange for payment outside the Game, e.g., power-leveling;
    (d) Exploit the Game or any of its parts, including without limitation the Game Client, for participation in the trade of items gained through the means listed above, or any other means violating this agreement;

    All four of these require exploiting the game. Mac doesn't exploit the game. None of these apply.
     
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    Exactly.......
     
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    Actually, the (a), (b), and (c) sub points of the bulleted statements are examples of the act of exploiting the game for commercial purpose.
     
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    The text says Exploit the Game
     
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    Furthermore: According to 18 USCS § 31, term "used for commercial purposes" means the carriage of persons or property for any fare, fee, rate, charge or other consideration, or directly or indirectly in connection with any business, or other undertaking intended for profit. This is exactly the activity in which he advertises and engages and thereby is in direct contravention of the terms of service.
     
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    I have already talked to the devs, asked the devs long ago was this ok, and it is. You all might want to ask the devs yourself, like I did. It really is simple, and you will get the truth, not your assumptions. LOL like a dev would not have noticed this thread by now from oct 9th LOL.

    I mean look at b, then ask yourself how many people are selling stuff for cash on the forums, TONS.
     
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    Powerleveling a guildy is allowed... not for commercial purpose, you are breaching the agreement you made with Portalarium, the devs are of no consequence in this matter.
     
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