Hardcore (UOish) Mode possible?

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  1. Stundorn

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    Just a question.
    What or how complicated it would be to make another Mode?

    In fact a UO Mode you cannot leave or join like offline mode, but as another online mode.

    This mode would have Tree limitations and a hard cap at 100.
    So pick 7 Trees and level all skills to a maximum of 100.

    Possible or too complicated?
    You need not to separate this online mode from Vendors or housing.
    The only thing you need to to is that you need to buy a new UO Mode Charslot for this.

    Maybe i miss something, was just an idea that come to my mind.

    If i have overseen something, i apologize if it's nonsense .
     
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    I like the idea of level caps too. However, I can't help but giggle at how you try to sell it different ways. Today's flavor is "UO Mode." Classic. Keep it up @Stundorn
     
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    Well i'm a fighter... .
    Eh mage. .


    Fighter Mage Hybrid?!?!


    Damn i'm a Viking ,thats it.
    I was able to get my kidnapped child back from china to germany.

    Giving up is not an option :D


    I'm thinking about compromises.
     
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    That would be awesome but they would have to call it something else, copyright and what not, CappedShroudMode ! I would be on that all the time if they had it!
     
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    Absolutely, i would even delete my char and rejoin this mode with all i have and be ever happy to build my true watermage healer with lots of inabilities.
    Tons of content become hard like hell with this and people need to group for a dragon and such.
    Way more RPish and hardcore imo
     
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    Now thats an good idea for a stretch goal.
     
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    I would do the same delete my character and start over again! and id pay 19.99 for it!
     
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    My guess is it would take some major re-writing of the game.
    Seeing that the dev team needs to move forward, I don't think moving backwards (ie, re-inventing the wheel, aka, re-design the game) would be a wise idea.
     
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    By UO mode I thought you were gonna say a massive map with no loading screens, but such is impossible as it'd be too expensive and not loadable w/ this engine, but such would be the only reason I'd go into another 'mode', the multiple mode options aside from the 2, Offline, Online, are what is destroying the game I'll make a thread about it because it's too important to post as a reply that will be ignored, I'd rather have it ignored in it's own thread
     
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    I dont see any big adaptions needed.
    May make sone examples where or what you think need to be re-done?!

    I just want a char limited to 7 trees he can choose from and a hard cap at skill 100.
    Nothing else.

    No more changes, only this.
     
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    If (userLogged == UoMode) {
    always_multiplayer = true;
    all_other_options = false;
    }

    Done :)
    Just leave the skills how it is.. without caps.
     
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    I want this to have pvp balance .
    Not hours grinded make you stronger and stronger.
    Players like me cannot and will not grind endlessly.
    This mode is to encourage groupplay, have interdependencies because of ones inabilities you need help. A firemage wouldnt be able to kill a fireelemental for example.
    A Crafter need to choose what and how he gather , refines and produce and if he also want to be able to kill stuff. This way Harvesters are a thing, fighter who can harvest one or two sort of Material.
    This way pvp becomes a lot more challenging and interesting imo
     
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    Oh and btw i come to the conclusion the community and playerbase is already heavily split up into all OPTIONS the game offers and discuss so hard about X versus Y.
    Maybe the solution is add more options.
    More Modes, we have a endless no restrictions mode , why not have a capped, restricted mode as an option?
    More options more players / customers.
     
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    ... you can already do that, right now, if you wish.

    Just make a new avatar and make that character have only 7 trees and stop leveling skills once you get them to 100.

    We have that flexibility. Then you can convince others to join you in doing all of this.

    I am already strongly considering my second and third characters being strongly focused along those lines with my first and primary character being more... of an everything avatar.

    Why are you asking for something you already have all the power to do and ask them to charge more money for it?
     
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    Really? By that notion I can go play Minecraft and pretend all the above plus more.
     
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    If i have to explain that, seriously i refuse and just step back.

    Thats like "i want permadeath"
    Answer "just delete your character"

    @Nelzie seriously, i could take that as an insult versus my intelligence, but i dont, i know you just want to take it down.

    Wasnt there yesterday a big discussion about exactly this.

    The group of satisfied customers seems to do all to keep returners away or just want to smother anything.
     
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    What Stundorn has been asking throughout all these different (but very very much the same) threads is that he wants the others to have those limits so he can catch up. He knows he can fix those limits to himself but then he can't compete, so he wants others to be limited so he can compete on his own terms. He basically wants to play UO/WoW/ESO but with the current SotA trees. He claims it is better for RP, for player dependency and other things, but at this point, after all these multiple times hes brought this up with different wording, I just think he is doing this because he doesn't enjoy the fact that those who can play more can get more. At this point, I don't understand why he didnt just leave to go back to UO considering thats what he is asking for instead of enjoying the game like it is.
     
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    Its not possible, it would require a complete overhaul of the entire skill system, experience system and Everything else pretty much.

    If you look at archery tree, i use more than 7 alone, in just archery. Then add armor, healing etc etc.

    But if the idea was to have a cap of main skills to 7 ( Archery being one, Blacksmithing being one etc ) Then i would completely agree.

    I have Always stated that a mmo where everyone can be jack of all trades is a horrible horrible idea, but back then the answer was " not possible with skill decay ". Well... Now what?
     
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    It's not on Stuns terms, but reasonable terms that thousands of players want and would enjoy. Not just a select few. He has also claimed it is better for PvP, which is undeniable. Combat balance would have been achieved a long time ago. Just because a player has the time to grind for hours, it does not make them good at PvP. Some people specifically practice PvP while abandoning the level grind all together. However, the belief that Atos has is that people that mindlessly kill monsters for hours on end are also those that are good at PvP. This is far from the case.

    This has already been happening.
     
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    Are you aware that there is a capped scene? Opalis Ruins. There are already separate combat formulas for alot of the PvE & PvP stuff. Why not make these formulas apply in the same manner to UO mode? The ship has sailed, but it's path can be changed.
     
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