Re: Player Feedback on R60 Change: Being Fully Encumbered Will Block Loot & Trade

I think the solution is just to set the weight of every object in the game to .0000000000000000001.

 

I'm sure the devs are trying to do what is best for the game.
Give them time to work on it.
It can be changed if this is not the solution.

 

How about the wonderful calculation being done in @Lesni 's screen shot? 20 million pounds... when it weighs 1000. Maybe that would be a supplemental reason for pushing this change back?

 

@Chris any chance to convince you to also increase water available on NPC vendor ? Buying 500k water/month 300-500 at a time its a huge/boring time sink. Would be a great QoL improvement.

 

@Chris, we love you, please don't ever get too pissed with us. We're passionate about the game, obviously not as passionate as someone who writes and creates it with there own blood sweat and tears, but we do get a bit excited. I assume you would prefer that to apathy (most of the time)? I am here a lot and I can't believe how much time you spend on this project, and as a UK player, I see you checking stuff on the forums at crazy hours for where you are located, all with a young child to nurture.

I hate when folks are really rude and nasty here, which is unfortunately quite often, and as you say, for a game like SOTA, we're all a bit older, many are professionals or mentors in our lives so people tend to be a bit 'expert' in their opinions as you say, when really they're not and if they were inside the project they would probably have a bit more respect.

Keep up the great work.

 

The screen shot was only 1000 pounds not 20 million.
The only reason to post it was to show that buying in bulk was an issue if it caused you to be encumbered.
I don't think it was a bug but by design from what I have read.

 

The idea that you could hold unlimited weight was insane to begin with.

 

Crafting tables pulling mats from the bank would rock, obviously only if it could check if it was there without loading everything like some allocation table, then again I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about unless it's hardware. Coding would make me rage. *bows down* (I think EVE might do this somehow)

 

the idea of enforcing it only on adventure scenes would FIX the problem big time. we only really overload in town crafting and planting stuff. in adventure zones, you always are keeping your weight UNDER 1X.
i dont carry a chest full of every crafting material i have. it stays in the bank. but i do make pouches of stuff that i am currently crafting and those weigh 2000 or 3000 and i walk a few steps to the table. crafting 1000 of the same item at a time is common for me, especially when smelting. my crafting supplies chest weighs 46k and it stays in the bank.
we do get overweight when we buy stuff. happens to me all the time so slow walking home is common.
the ability to slow walk big overencumbrances is one of the ADVANTAGES of this game. screw the other games. none of us exploit it, WE USE IT as needed. serious crafters are like me in this regard.
in my opinion, the BEST FIX is enforcing this on adventure scenes only.

 

Thanks for taking time to engage and clarify some of this. It really does help to understand what to expect.

 

I would not mind if crafting table was also container and you could use only mats stored inside so when crafting I would not be going through all the junk in my inventory. And crafted items could be also stored in the crafting table until you could pick them up. Though that would not work well for public stations.

 

@Chris Thank you for looking into this. The above looks like the best solution and meets some of the expectations that have been set over the years, particularly with housing/decorating, crafting, etc. It makes little sense to me to have unlimited weight in adventuring scenes, but in town scenes I've always appreciated the leeway because it's very helpful. Fixing brewing in the "correct" way rather than the temporary band-aid seems like the right way to go as well. It sucks that people are so quick to find ways to abuse systems, and I know having to figure out how to handle that consumes a lot of the developers time that could be better spent elsewhere without that headache.

 

WoW does this now, last time I played it, as well (Pull crafting materials from your bank). The problem I see there is most people have very limited bank slots (although they can of course buy more). I was lucky enough to have a pledge that came with a lot of bank slots + a POT bundle that gave me even more, so it's not an issue for me personally, but it could be an issue for F2P accounts if they haven't finished the story line and gotten a row lot yet.

 

Thank you all for the feedback. We have slightly modified this so that it no longer affects Crafting based on your examples of how you use the systems. I have updated the 3 places we mention the new rules (original encumbrance post, R60 posts on web & forum).

Here is the updated information:

• Fully Encumbered Blocks Loot/Trade: Characters cannot gain items via loot or trade if doing so would cause them to exceed the weight limit of 3x their base capacity. "Loot" includes items from corpses, adventure chests, resource nodes (excluding agriculture), fishing, and world items. Making this change fixes numerous bugs and exploits. Players who are already exceeding this amount will still be able to move but not pick up any new items until they get under the 3x cap. NOTE: These new rules do NOT limit crafting.

 

Fair enough, good changes.

 

So decorating lots is still going to be a nightmare?

 

@Chris @DarkStarr Thanks for adjusting this. Much better, IMO.