Upgrading Tax Free Lots

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  1. Calan Caitin

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    So I was checking on my taxfree lots: From village to town is 400 coto. From town to city is 400 coto also. Are they meant to be 400 coto as a flat rate? Which one is correct if it isn't meant to be the same?
     
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    will they keep their tax free status?
     
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    yes. They maintain the status they have. IE Taxfree, Founder etc...
     
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    Still don't understand the pricing:
    Tax Free POT Row -> Tax Free POT Village - 140
    Tax Free POT Village -> Town 400
    TF POT Town -> City 400
    Tax Free POT City -> Keep 1000
    TF POT Keep -> Castle 2000

    Costs the same to go from a village to a town as it does from a town to a city? That doesn't make any sense in the history of the pricing scheme.
     
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    what about taxed pot deed prices plz?
     
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    Have you filed a bug report?
     
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    I do not have a TF POT Town Lot Deed to test in QA, but I do see your point. Maybe a Dev could look at it and confirm its correct or not.
     
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    This is also on the thread link I posted above, but this is what was tested. I do not have any taxed lot deeds to test the larger sizes.

    POT Row to Village Taxable: 30 Crowns
    POT Village to Town Taxable 90 Crowns
     
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    FYI - Just took a look at what the upgrade cost would be on my TF Founder Deed to a Castle would be, and it reads 2200 COTO
     
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    WOW what a drop in taxes on the Castle Lots 4,000 daily vs 28,000 daily if my memory is correct, always used my scepters on that so I may be off
     
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    Pot Taxed Town -> City = 250
    Tax Free Town -> City = 500
    Tax Free Founder Town -> City = 500

    So I suppose Tax Free costs double.

    Tax Free Founder Village -> Town = 410 !?
     
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    If you see my Original post you can see that I indicate that is possible I have made some error about the price. I put the price very fast and that is possible I put price in wrong line.
     
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    Each type of Lot Deed Category has different increase prices. PoT Taxable, PoT Tax Free, PA Taxable, Benefactor TF, Founder TF (Water Access).
    For now you can go up in your own lane, but you cannot cross lanes, i.e. go Tax Free from Taxable, however this is planned soon (tm).

    Here are come of the ones we logged on QA Yesterday. Not a full list but you should be able to get an idea of where your upgrade will fall.
    Lots of great contributors to getting the list made. Thanks!

    Also, It sounds like you can convert/upgrade your Non-Tradeable Gift Deed to Tradable and then upgrade it from there. Not sure of the exact cost of that.

    POT Row to Village Taxable: 30 Crowns
    POT Village to Town Taxable 90 Crowns
    Benefactor TF PA Row lot deed -> TF PA village deed: 170
    Tax Free Founder Row Lot Deed -> Village 210
    POT Village to Town Tax Free 400 Crowns
    FOUNDER Village to Town Tax Free 410 Crowns
    FOUNDER Town to City Tax Free 500 Crowns
    PoT taxed City -> Keep = 600
    PoT taxed Keep -> Castle = 1000
    POT Tax Free City to POT Tax Free Keep ... 1000
    Tax Free Founder City -> Keep 1300
    Benefactor TF PA Keep -> TF PA Castle: 2100 COTOs
    Founder TF PA Keep -> TF PA Castle: 2200 COTOs
     
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    So, the biggest question I have is when does the COTO change and Store pricing go into effect? (1 COTO becomes 100 COTOs). And, when that happens, does this deed upgrade pricing change with it? (400 COTO's for a POT Village to POT Town becomes 40,000)
     
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    I don't believe they've stated exactly when that change would be implemented, though I would imagine it would be in conjunction with the revamp of the Web Shop to limit the items available there to COTO, Service Vouchers, and a few other items that it wouldn't be sensible or practical to sell in-game.
    I do believe it would be safe to assume at this point that all COTO costs would be subject to the multiplier.
    They have stated that in conjunction with the revaluation of COTO they would be making a pass through all purchasable items and adjusting prices to take advantage of the finer granularity provided. This finer granularity being one of the primary motivators for the revaluation, along with coming more in line with how other titles have implemented their premium currency shops.
     
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    Ouch. That village to city bundle upgrade was a giant waste of Cotos, I should have waited.
     
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    Now don't get me wrong, I love what they are doing here and I believe it will be good for the game, however, I have PM's @Chris and @DarkStarr to ask for one more thing...

    The ability to cash your existing deeds in for COTO.

    Now I know we don't want people cashing in Free Deeds for COTO, however, throughout the years many of us have invested a ton of RL Cash on bundles, upgrades, etc. It would be VERY Nice if we could choose now to cash in many of those low level properties for the opportunity to upgrade a single property. This would also free up more smaller lots in the world to allow new players to place, AND Stimulate both add-on sales and economy for furniture, dyes, dungeons and other assets needed to fill the larger homes.

    If I would have know this was going to be the plan I would have waited, but instead, seeing all the bundles expiring, I went out wide with multiple properties instead of the preferable up direction. As long as the property deed was originally purchased, should it matter if the in game asset is a deed or COTO used to upgrade?

    Selling to players is a long process, you need to get IGG, then convert to COTO on game prices, deal with demand/supply or go outside the game. Simply allowing a "Cash In For COTO" option on the deed itself, below the upgrade option, would be amazing!
     
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    That's a great idea Aartemis. Hope devs will take note. It will cycle the smaller deeds out of the market, and give Port new opportunities to sell these smaller deeds from the coto store.
     
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    It's a nice idea, but... Allowing players to trade in their deeds for Cotos, even if they offered it at really poor exchange rate, does not likely align with the whole purpose of this. It is so more Cotos leave the system and to create an incentive for players to buy more Cotos off the store. If they let you trade in a bunch of row/village /etc. deeds for Cotos, you aren't buying them from the store, and the needed funds aren't collected by Port. So I wouldn't hold my breath on this one.
     
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