Envy Bow drop rate

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  1. Echondas

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    Chris said last week on a stream that the drop rate was about 1/31 -- but if you do the math, there's still a chance you won't get it after 31 kills exactly.
     
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    Just sharing my story so people reading this do not despair:

    I read the post "nerf the envy bow" and added it to my to-do list. Found her and killed her 3 times. Third time she dropped the bow. My guild was congratulating me but I had no idea how lucky I was - I felt they were celebrating mediocrity! This was the day before it was nerfed so I havent had chance to use it.
     
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    well its hard to ONLY kill her and not all the munchkins around her but I certainly camped that zone withotu leaving for a LOT of mine across 3 days and that didnt' seem to help.
     
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    I'd like to see the math around what the sample size need to be to verify a drop rate with say 95% confidence. I assume it gets bigger and bigger as drop rates go down but not sure what that looks like exactly.

    **Throws down guantlet**
     
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    It only took me 6 kills. *shrugs*
     
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    Hippie Chick and I received our bow on the 3rd kill, however have still not got the #$@#@ cowbell.
     
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    Got one today with second envy angel. Welcome to RNG world!
     
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    Chris said in the stream that poor bow was 1/31 and better was 31/up. But then who knows anymore. They tweak and tweak til nothing has eyebrows anymore. How about make something right the first time put it in the game and LEAVE IT ALONE. Holy crap apparently they dont get "if it aint broke dont fix it"
     
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    Just because it has a 1 in 31 chance to drop doesn't mean that you'll get one by the time you kill 31 envy angels. It means that every time you kill her, you have a ~3.2258% chance for one to drop.
     
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    Not a great bow get the Xen Bow much better
     
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    would much rather you tell us what it does mean instead of what it doesn't mean.

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    chance of not getting a bow is 30/31 per kill
    chance of not getting a bow N times in a row is (30/31)^N

    So for 31 times its (30/31)^31 = 36% of NOT getting a bow

    So its not crazy to think you can kill it 31 times and not get a bow.

    At N=100 its 3.8%,
    At N=150 its less than 1%
     
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    So the zen bow is about 1.4 million gold. Not sure everyone thats trying to get an Envy bow can really just "get the Xen Bow".
     
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    I did.
     
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    I kinda had a similar situation as you. I was looking for the death spell trainer and stumbled upon Envy. I killed her and looted the bow, not thinking anything of it. Later on my friend told me congratz, but I thought he was being sarcastic; I only killed her once and got the bow. Well, after reading this thread, I guess i'm lucky (I don't really use bows either)
     
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    Yeah, I helped a friend and he got it on our third kill. I've killed her at least 40 times since then. /sigh
     
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