Heavy armor imbalance and wand wierdness?

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  1. Arkah EMPstrike

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    Recently I've had a couple of people ask me "Why don't you wear heavy armor?" to which I replied "Light armor is hard mode" and here is why I think that.

    Heavy armor lets you avoid damage, resist damage, have a gap closing knockdown, remove stuns and bleeds and slows, get a massive strength boost, and if you wear just the chain chest apparently doesn't really hinder your spell casts in a way that cant be easily overcome.


    I wear light armor because I like to move fast.

    Light armor lets you: Attack and move fast, Remove slows, dodge (not as reliable as avoidance).

    BUT the biggest movment affects in the game are fleet flute and dash, both totally usable in heavy armor, which also has a gap closing stun, so light armor doesn't really have a speed advantage, and reckless stance/ berserker stance both work just as well as flurry, but do not stack with flurry. So high attack speed isn't unique to light armor either. Chaotic feedback is kind of a pain to use but apparently can work better than specialized flurry does.


    The things light armor does that heavy armor cant do is: Has a passive that gives 15% move rate and attack speed at lvl 120, and dodge.

    If anything above is wrong or I missed something let me know.

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    As for wands, I mainly still just think its weird that the bludgeon passive Breaker gives something like +25 or +30 strength just for holding a wand.
     
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    What I dont understand from your statement, is you seem to be saying Heavy Armor gets a ton of OP stuff, but you are saying it is Hard Mode? Wouldn't it be Easy Mode following your statement? Or did I misunderstand completely?
     
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    Try using Fustian cloth chest armor. As an air mage it provides sooooo much focus my shield keeps me safe. Air shield and focus gear = yummy.
     
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    Chris keeps threatening that he's going to nerf Shield of Air.
     
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    You literally move slower in heavy armor than you do in light. Dash and fleet flute don't negate that, but they do help. You move much faster in light armor.
     
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    He can like so many other things it is not what legend claims. If you have obscene focus the shield works but as an air mage you cannot do damage. So it is a great way to solo nothing and in groups a bad method to tank because it will fail.
     
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    I was thinking that by "hard mode" perhaps he meant, the mode which you use to go kill hard mobs?
     
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    So, is Shield of Air good or bad?
     
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    @Arkah EMPstrike

    I agree with your statements, except as others have said "Heavy armour is Hard Mode", I've always said playing light armour was playing this game in hard mode.

    To my mind the nail in the coffin for light armour was when they limited a player to only 2 speed buffs and the fleet flute already existed. Allowing, as you have said, non light armour to have dash and fleet flute that are both more movement rate than sprint....
     
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    Maybe the way to balance it is to give the light armour tree a dex and int passive.
     
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    I meant to say light armor is hard mode
     
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    I think there is currently no reason to use light armor other than for RP reasons or if you use a pure mage build.

    Seriously, you can stealth without penalty in full plate... That's so absurd! You can run and are only minimally slower than someone in light armor. Wish we had a stamina stat that was drained when running in plate armor.

    That being said, I use light armor exclusively. My non-RPing friends mock me about handicapping myself...
     
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    The one thing your missing is that you can get int MWS on cloth and dex MWS on leather.
     
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    And if you didn't only have to miss out on the chest piece AND they were more significant (they are equivalent to MINOR enchants), this may help balance the heavy vs light armour debate.

    As the debate is really not about the armour, it is about the tree. Light armour is well used, just not the chest piece :)


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    So as ranged, should I be using heavy armor? That just seems... absurd. :(
     
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    I would prefer it if they just remove the mechanic where chest piece determines your tree. Then only full heavy can use heavy tree, full light uses the light tree and make a whole new tree for hybrids, with different bonuses and skills. Heavy currently has too many advantages to pass up in my opinion. A new tree would give us more options and less people playing chain chest with light armor for the rest.
     
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    And give up Flurry... that is absurd!
     
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    Plus all the heavy armor is really ugly.
     
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    I'd add stealth malus with heavy torso
     
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    Well, he stated you could use either reckless stance/ berserker stance as an alternative.. I've never used any of the stances at all.
     
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