(NecroThread)Archery "adjustments"

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  1. Barugon

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    In @Chris' Monday livestream, he said that archery will be getting some adjustments. Did he detail what those adjustments will be?

    I fear that they'll just be more nerfs.
     
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    <cracks knuckles>

    If you can’t improve bludgeon, bring everything else down to its level.

    ...

    <sips coffee>
     
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    I love Bludgeon, in fact I am switching to it. What’s wrong with it? For my playstyle it’s really good, all that sexy crowd control.....
     
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    Yes, please be forthcoming with spelling out archery changes in advance of making the changes. It would be nice to have time to make adjustments if need be.
     
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    Chris has decided that since we can't crit for 1000+ like melee can, we shouldn't have any fun at all.

    Well, probably not, but that's what it always feels like.
     
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    I see archers crit for over 1000 all the time
     
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    Try Xen Penetrator or Envy Bow with some str, 1000+ will be the daily bread.
    I assume however that with melee we talk about polearm or sneak attack.
     
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    He said on this stream: that it will be a soft nerf. On top of the increase to skills costing more across the board, archery skills will have another cost to it as well. So while charge attack will be op still, and doesn't cost anything to use, skills will cost more. The thinking behind this boggles the heck out of me.
     
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    Certain people are complaining that archery is overpowered in PVP so changes are going to happen. I hope that archery in PVM is still a viable option as it has taken me much effort to get where I am today.
     
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    So, the problem is the base free attack but he's going to nerf the other ranged skills? And, he didn't say what that would be?
     
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    I'm really starting to hate these high-powered artifacts. Every time they introduce some new kickass item, they have to nerf skills to make up for it. Now people will be able to combine multiple Xen Penetrators into an even more powerful bow.
     
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    If I can still get two-shot while running towards archer who's only holding down a button for 1 second and not even using any focus then it isn't a real change. A bit deflating, that is and it gets old fast. A shield w/ or w/o defensive stance at least allows me to soak up me 3-4 hits before I die and my HP and defenses are very high. I'd hate to be a newish 800 HP player trying to fight these players...

    If this isn't what is getting fixed then who cares...

    Factor in blind, air shield (because charge attack uses no focus), and you have a brittle brawn wearing one-shot machine who mitigated most damage with the focus they're not using for attacks. They do less damage USING glyphs instead of just doing ONLY charge attacks. Less damage using glyphs which I'm not sure is intended... *sigh* @Chris. I guess it saves a lot of XP if you don't have to level any glyphs, though.

    There are quite a few of these archers around now all getting used to this. When I see many of them I'll just sit down instead of trying to meander closer to them or meander away as it gets me rez'd and to an ankh so I can teleport away faster.
     
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    Played a bit by 120 level archer. Still suck if compared with mages. Dont understand what you are talking about.
    Where archery is really good - boss type PVE, all other aspects of the game, PVP dung farm and etc, mages are far better, far flexible, far easier.
     
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    My DPS is fairly high. Physical vs. mobs possibly the best. When I see a mage far outpace my single target damage - like I've seen some archers do - maybe I'll agree with you.

    The number of 1000 damage hits I've seen from this build and tactic is very high and from many different players. I've seen some players who start out with a blind crit almost every shot. My biggest thrust in 950ish, has a limited amount of glyphs, uses focus, and I have to be near and keep the target right in front of me. Their charged attack uses no focus, is infinite, takes a second to charge, crits upwards of 1200, and can hit targets 100% of the time so long as your facing in their general direction.

    I think you should level archery to 150 again, equip an Envy bow, and charge charge charge. For good measure toss on air or death shield. That build is growing by the day.
     
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    Talking about PVP that was before wardings update and before wardings there were dark unicorns ;)
     
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    Is there anyone still playing archery?
    PvE wise sucks compared to aoe dot style
    PvP in Arena sucks for close up forced combat
    PvP Open is nonexistant.
    I Bet 80% of players are Fire oriented. Every hardcore farmer is Fire. You cannot reach fire rates of gold per hour with anything out there.
    And the issue is 1k single melee splash dmg
    Everything is soloable in this game
     
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    Who needs to kill 1 mage when you can pull the whole room and clean it in almost the same time?
     
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    Only all of the the top single target DPSers and most of the top PVPers.
     
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    My thrust can't crit for 1000. Seen a great many charged shots easily top this.
     
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    Mage= Air, Earth, Death, Life, Sun, Moon, Water, Chaos and Fire
    Melee= Blades, Bludgeons, Polearms

    I still wonder why when we talk about mages, people refer to what fire mages do and why when we talk about melee, people refer to what polearm can do.

    There are atleast another 6 magic schools and atleast 1 melee tree who dream of doing even a viable pve or pvp.

    I'm kinda tired of this fire, polearm, archery trio that can do super pvp and pve while the rest stay in the shadow.
     
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