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Encrypt the UDP packets transporting ingame chat. (And Friends xCoordinates)

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    Screw ease-droppers.
     
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    Why? the login and sensitive data is encrypted. The UDP packets you see have nothing sensitive going.
     
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    AI profiling bots.
     
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    Well that same data is also available through the API.
     
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    You say this like it should make us all nod our heads and go "aaaaa, yes, this".
    What the ham is an "AI profiling bot".

    I suggest that you fetch your foil hat and stick it up ( in your head ), shutdown your computer and lock. your. doors.
     
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    Oh sorry I did not see you were talking about chat packets! Please ignore my comments. I agree, chat should be encrypted.
     
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    Try google.
    Thanks, you inspired me to make another feature request.
     
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    Encrypt the UDP packets transporting ingame chat.
    Oh yea, like Port has nothing better to work on.......
     
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    If it didn't involve any math....
     
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    I have done packet sniffing and the statement of clear text chat is false. the UDP packets are encapsulated into another ENET UDP data structure. You can not sniff chat.

    I tested, local, zone, guild and player to player chat.
     
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    You go, guy...........
     
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    When i posted my message, as i said in our private message, universal chat, atleast, is or now was visible in plain text in the packets. You said nothing of universal chat?
     
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    I will check universal chat tonight. Although universal chat for me is the same as standing on a very busy train station with hundreds of people(s) chit chatting about anything.
     
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    Given the game is free, and you guys seem to be talking "universal chat" anything you say is gamewidely available, if you really are talking of anything you feel no one should hear.. why would you be in universal chat when any halfwit can get the game and listen anyway
     
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    Watch the great hack on netflix. documentary. Release date july 24th 2019.
    It is my personal preference that the noise from an application is contained within it self and not plain text traveling across the backbones to every corner of the internet where a player connects. It's the opposite of messy.
     
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    Even universe chat is not clear text. I am not sure where you found that but I do not see it on the wire as easy sniffable.
    If really wanted yes you can dissect Photon & ENET traffic and decrypt the data structures based on sparse PUN documentation. But this defeats the purpose of what you was starting with.
    If you want to create havoc at least know what you are talking about. Just spitting out false information on forum threads because of some documentaries you watch is utterly stupid.
     
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    Can I please have made this feature request without a debate. I already did what i wanted to do. Place a feature request.
    PS. This thread was created before that documentary was publicly released.
    Can this Thread be closed?
    The data I saw was from wireshark. I'll look again. Maybe they changed it because it actually is or was supposed to be not in plain text. It's not a crucial feature or big deal.
    Yea still there, i just typed "awesome" in univeral chat. BTW, that is considered plain unencrypted text, because it's readily decipherable without an encryption key by any computer routing the data.

    0000 b8 ca 3a 80 36 a4 e0 22 04 40 65 59 08 00 45 00 ..:.6..".@eY..E.
    0010 01 08 49 f1 00 00 73 11 3f 1e 26 8c d6 9d c0 a8 ..I...s.?.&.....
    0020 00 04 13 c2 d9 fe 00 f4 a7 6e 00 00 00 03 3d 66 .........n....=f
    0030 1c 2e 5d 89 3a 63 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 ..].:c..........
    0040 00 00 00 00 00 16 00 0f e7 de 06 00 01 00 00 00 ................
    0050 00 4e 00 00 00 57 f3 83 a0 93 27 88 06 fa de 4b .N...W....'....K
    0060 6d 36 8b b5 2a 5d 60 38 5a ef d2 f1 ab f4 86 a1 m6..*]`8Z.......
    0070 a2 e6 e6 ac 50 a3 38 39 f9 8b fe fc b7 4a 09 76 ....P.89.....J.v
    0080 2b a8 04 ce 5a f8 00 e7 f6 53 fb 34 6a 39 94 fa +...Z....S.4j9..
    0090 3c 0b 5f 7a 5a 78 30 23 06 00 01 00 00 00 00 7e <._zZx0#.......~
    00a0 00 00 00 58 f3 04 00 00 02 00 6c 00 00 00 00 d6 ...X......l.....
    00b0 e9 de e9 01 63 01 00 5e 7b 22 30 22 3a 22 4d 69 ....c..^{"0":"Mi
    00c0 73 63 2f 55 6e 69 76 65 72 73 65 22 2c 22 31 22 sc/Universe","1"
    00d0 3a 7b 22 63 22 3a 22 61 77 65 73 6f 6d 65 22 7d :{"c":"awesome"}
    00e0 2c 22 32 22 3a 22 35 64 31 36 61 61 36 34 34 64 ,"2":"5d16aa644d
    00f0 39 37 39 39 31 31 37 63 35 35 62 65 63 30 2c 4a 9799117c55bec0,J
    0100 75 73 74 2c 44 69 63 65 2c 30 22 2c 22 33 22 3a ust,Dice,0","3":
    0110 66 61 6c 73 65 7d false}



    in fact i seem to know where people are? maybe only on friends list. xCoord":"5079,5071"

    0000 b8 ca 3a 80 36 a4 e0 22 04 40 65 59 08 00 45 00 ..:.6..".@eY..E.
    0010 02 5b 53 91 00 00 73 11 34 2b 26 8c d6 9d c0 a8 .[S...s.4+&.....
    0020 00 04 13 c2 d9 fe 02 47 61 b4 00 00 00 01 3d 6b .......Ga.....=k
    0030 b4 30 5d 89 3a 63 06 00 01 00 00 00 02 33 00 00 .0].:c.......3..
    0040 00 71 f3 04 00 00 02 00 6c 00 00 00 00 59 70 f8 .q......l....Yp.
    0050 11 01 63 01 02 13 7b 22 30 22 3a 7b 22 75 69 64 ..c...{"0":{"uid
    0060 22 3a 22 35 37 65 38 34 38 39 64 61 62 62 37 35 ":"57e8489dabb75
    0070 61 30 35 63 63 63 35 39 36 62 35 22 2c 22 63 6e a05ccc596b5","cn
    0080 22 3a 22 35 37 65 38 34 38 64 30 61 62 62 37 35 ":"57e848d0abb75
    0090 61 30 35 63 63 63 35 39 36 62 64 2c 4f 7a 7a 79 a05ccc596bd,Ozzy
    00a0 2c 51 75 65 73 74 6f 72 2c 30 22 2c 22 73 74 22 ,Questor,0","st"
    00b0 3a 31 2c 22 6d 74 22 3a 22 33 2e 30 36 3a 33 31 :1,"mt":"3.06:31
    00c0 3a 30 31 2e 37 30 39 32 39 38 31 22 2c 22 61 63 :01.7092981","ac
    00d0 6b 22 3a 31 2c 22 72 73 74 22 3a 31 2c 22 72 6d k":1,"rst":1,"rm
    00e0 74 22 3a 22 33 2e 30 36 3a 33 31 3a 31 30 2e 37 t":"3.06:31:10.7
    00f0 32 35 32 39 38 31 22 2c 22 6c 6f 74 22 3a 22 30 252981","lot":"0
    0100 30 3a 30 39 3a 32 34 2e 37 30 30 37 36 31 38 22 0:09:24.7007618"
    0110 2c 22 70 73 65 22 3a 7b 22 72 70 72 70 22 3a 7b ,"pse":{"rprp":{
    0120 22 53 63 65 6e 65 49 64 22 3a 22 42 61 73 65 6d "SceneId":"Basem
    0130 65 6e 74 53 63 65 6e 65 44 75 6e 67 65 6f 6e 56 entSceneDungeonV
    0140 69 6c 6c 61 67 65 5f 41 72 65 6e 61 22 2c 22 43 illage_Arena","C
    0150 68 6b 53 75 6d 22 3a 36 31 36 37 36 36 31 32 38 hkSum":616766128
    0160 2c 22 45 6e 63 6f 75 6e 74 65 72 22 3a 6e 75 6c ,"Encounter":nul
    0170 6c 2c 22 42 75 69 6c 64 22 3a 31 30 31 38 2c 22 l,"Build":1018,"
    0180 4f 77 6e 65 72 22 3a 22 22 2c 22 50 61 72 65 6e Owner":"","Paren
    0190 74 50 6c 6f 74 22 3a 7b 22 73 63 22 3a 22 50 4f tPlot":{"sc":"PO
    01a0 54 5f 66 6f 72 65 73 74 5f 6d 65 74 72 6f 70 6f T_forest_metropo
    01b0 6c 69 73 5f 30 31 5f 74 65 6d 70 6c 61 74 65 2f lis_01_template/
    01c0 42 72 69 74 74 20 4d 61 72 74 22 2c 22 70 6c 22 Britt Mart","pl"
    01d0 3a 22 35 64 32 64 31 36 66 31 34 64 39 37 38 38 :"5d2d16f14d9788
    01e0 30 35 39 34 39 39 62 37 36 34 22 2c 22 75 73 22 059499b764","us"
    01f0 3a 22 35 37 65 38 34 38 39 64 61 62 62 37 35 61 :"57e8489dabb75a
    0200 30 35 63 63 63 35 39 36 62 35 22 7d 2c 22 43 6c 05ccc596b5"},"Cl
    0210 6f 73 69 6e 67 22 3a 66 61 6c 73 65 2c 22 68 65 osing":false,"he
    0220 78 43 6f 6f 72 64 22 3a 22 35 30 37 39 2c 35 30 xCoord":"5079,50
    0230 37 31 22 2c 22 73 70 61 77 6e 22 3a 22 50 6c 61 71","spawn":"Pla
    0240 79 65 72 53 70 61 77 6e 4c 6f 63 61 74 69 6f 6e yerSpawnLocation
    0250 22 2c 22 4d 61 74 63 68 22 3a 33 7d 7d 2c 22 6f ","Match":3}},"o
    0260 6c 22 3a 74 72 75 65 7d 7d l":true}}

    That looks like the extent of it. None of the chat I receive is encrypted and somehow the friends list can cough up more than just location names.

    I'm not exactly sure why someone would stake sides to an argument and tell me that what is plainly in front of my face, isn't real. Either you like arguing, didn't look well enough, or something exploitable is also being transmitted.
     
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    It is simple statistics data. I followed the UDP stream and I did a lot of hello worlds in the universal chat and did not find any strings related to it.
     
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    Than I do not suspect your speaking for yourself but for the average user, or that in addition to your inability to find the packet, you also cannot find the message posted 1 message before your last.

    Allow people to make legitimate feature requests and leave me alone. I am sorry if maybe you have feature requests and think I am causing a slow down for what you would ask for. I don't know what you want, please stop trying to make me guess as to why you keep posting in my thread.

    I sincerely want this thread closed for further discussion.
     
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