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  1. Echondas

    Echondas Bug Hunter Bug Moderator

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    11/21/2019 19:07
    Title: oracle still needs multiple keywords before responding
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    [11/21/2019 7:05:51 PM] The Oracle: Yes, hello, Echondas. Do you seek my counsel on the path before you? Perhaps you are here regarding my protection? I can also test you on your knowledge of yourself, if you so wish.
    [11/21/2019 7:05:51 PM]
    [11/21/2019 7:05:54 PM] Echondas: truth
    [11/21/2019 7:05:54 PM] The Oracle: Truth, without which communication with each other is a wasted endeavor. The elves of the Vertas plain search for the truth of their lives. How will you guide them? What example will you show?
    [11/21/2019 7:05:54 PM] The Oracle: I have observed your actions regarding your journey towards the nature of truth. What I have witnessed in general shows that you consider this virtue important.
    [11/21/2019 7:05:54 PM]
    [11/21/2019 7:05:55 PM] Echondas: love
    [11/21/2019 7:05:57 PM] Echondas: love
    [11/21/2019 7:05:58 PM] Echondas: love
    [11/21/2019 7:05:58 PM] The Oracle: Love, the guiding principle of our need to be with another. The land of Ardoris is beset with the consequences of love forsaken. How will you guide them? What example will you show?
    [11/21/2019 7:05:58 PM] The Oracle: I have watched as you have continued on your journey towards the nature of love. What I have witnessed in general shows that you consider this virtue important.
    [11/21/2019 7:05:58 PM]
    [11/21/2019 7:06:00 PM] Echondas: courage
    [11/21/2019 7:06:02 PM] Echondas: courage
    [11/21/2019 7:06:02 PM] The Oracle: Courage, without which we fall to our own devices of those who seek to take all that we value. The island of Norgard is struggling with the need for courage in their darkest hour. How will you guide them? What example will you show?
    [11/21/2019 7:06:02 PM] The Oracle: I have witnessed your actions regarding your journey towards the nature of courage. What I have witnessed in general shows that you consider this virtue important.
    [11/21/2019 7:06:02 PM]
    [11/21/2019 7:06:04 PM] Echondas: test
    [11/21/2019 7:06:15 PM] Echondas: test
    [11/21/2019 7:06:16 PM] The Oracle: I have observed your actions while walking along the Path of Courage. Do you feel your actions demonstrate how to live according to the Virtue of Courage? Simply respond 'Yes I do', or 'No I do not'.
    [11/21/2019 7:06:16 PM]
    [11/21/2019 7:06:19 PM] Echondas: yes
    [11/21/2019 7:06:23 PM] Echondas: yes
    [11/21/2019 7:06:24 PM] The Oracle: My observations confirm you are following the Path of Courage, Echondas. Here is a small reward. Please return tomorrow if you would like to take this test again.
    [11/21/2019 7:06:24 PM]
    [11/21/2019 7:06:24 PM] You receive 500 gold!
    [11/21/2019 7:06:24 PM] You gained 1000 experience needed for skill development!
    [11/21/2019 7:06:27 PM] Echondas: bye
    [11/21/2019 7:06:28 PM] The Oracle: Farewell, Echondas. Please see me again within a week.


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    SotA.Win.64.1077.Date.11.20.19
    Area: POT_forest_metropolis_01a_template/Mediolanum
    Area Display Name: Mediolanum
    Loc: (150.4, 36.1, 237.7)
    Debug: UE9UX2ZvcmVzdF9tZXRyb3BvbGlzXzAxYV90ZW1wbGF0ZXxNZWRpb2xhbnVtfCgxNTAuMzU2LCAzNi4xMTUsIDIzNy42OTYpfCgwLCAtMC4wNTgsIDAsIC0wLjk5OCl8MC41MzE0Mjc0fDEzLjA3ODU2fDguMjQxNjQ1
     
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    Sannio Lead Quest and Level Designer Moderator SOTA Developer

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    Thanks for the report! Issue #66083
     
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    I think her talking animation has to stop or at least be almost complete before she'll continue the conversation.
     
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    Sannio Lead Quest and Level Designer Moderator SOTA Developer

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    Hm, interesting theory. I think it may be possible. I'll add a note to the report.
     
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    thanks Sannio - don’t forget to give Hero some turkey
     
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    Sannio Lead Quest and Level Designer Moderator SOTA Developer

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    I didn't forget, and he loved it!
     
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    I'm not able to replicate this:

    The Oracle: Yes, hello, Anpu. Do you seek my counsel on the path before you? Perhaps you are here regarding my protection? I can also test you on your knowledge of yourself, if you so wish.

    Anpu: test
    The Oracle: I have observed your actions while walking along the Path of Love. Do you feel your actions demonstrate how to live according to the Virtue of Love? Simply respond 'Yes I do', or 'No I do not'.

    Anpu: Yes
    The Oracle: My observations confirm you are following the Path of Love, Anpu. Here is a small reward. Please return tomorrow if you would like to take this test again.

    You receive 500 gold!
    You gained 1000 experience needed for skill development!
    Anpu: Goodbye
    The Oracle: Farewell, Anpu. Please see me again within a week.

    I didn't need to say multiple keywords.

    11/29/2019 08:53
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    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 GPU RAM: 8079
    SotA.Win.64.1082.Date.11.28.19
    Area: POT_forest_metropolis_01a_template/Mediolanum
    Area Display Name: Mediolanum
    Loc: (120.8, 38.2, 284.3)
    Debug: UE9UX2ZvcmVzdF9tZXRyb3BvbGlzXzAxYV90ZW1wbGF0ZXxNZWRpb2xhbnVtfCgxMjAuNzYyLCAzOC4xODQsIDI4NC4zMjEpfCgwLCAtMC4wMjYsIDAsIDEpfDM1Ny4yODUzfDMzLjAyNjI2fDEwLjM4MjU0

    Nvidia GEForce 441.41 Drivers.
     
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    @Sannio,

    this happens only in POTs!

    In POT you have to click three to four times until the Oracle responds.
    I also assumed, it has to do with the Oracle talking animation.
    But after she has answered, the animation goes on...

    In NPC towns it works! After "test" clicking "yes" and no delay.

    So something must be different in POTs!
     
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    I don’t have this issue happen to me. Still wondering what could be causing this?
     
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    Maybe it’s a quest flag that @Paladin Michael and myself both have? I’ll jump on QA in a bit and do a quest reset - see if that fixes it
     
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    Also not in a POT??? That would be very interesting!
     
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    I did the (one time) quest reset a few months after launch ...
     
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    I was in the POT of Dragomir Mori just a few minutes ago, and spoke the the Oracle in the conservatory there. I had no issues speaking to her (She DID however, not have any sound when she was speaking).

    12/01/2019 08:12
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    SotA.Win.64.1082.Date.11.28.19
    Area: POT_forest_metropolis_01_template/Dragomir Mori
    Area Display Name: Dragomir Mori
    Loc: (92.1, 38.0, 315.6)
    Debug: UE9UX2ZvcmVzdF9tZXRyb3BvbGlzXzAxX3RlbXBsYXRlfERyYWdvbWlyIE1vcml8KDkyLjE0NywgMzcuOTk3LCAzMTUuNjA2KXwoMCwgMC41ODcsIDAsIC0wLjgwOSl8Mjg4LjE1OTF8MjkuNzM4NzZ8MTAuMzgyNTQ=

    Nvidia GEForce 441.41 Drivers.

    [12/1/2019 7:48:04 AM] The Oracle: Yes, hello, Anpu. Do you seek my counsel on the path before you? Perhaps you are here regarding my protection? I can also test you on your knowledge of yourself, if you so wish.
    [12/1/2019 7:48:04 AM]
    [12/1/2019 7:48:11 AM] Anpu: test
    [12/1/2019 7:48:11 AM] The Oracle: I have observed your actions while walking along the Path of Love. Do you feel your actions demonstrate how to live according to the Virtue of Love? Simply respond 'Yes I do', or 'No I do not'.
    [12/1/2019 7:48:11 AM]
    [12/1/2019 7:48:17 AM] Anpu: Yes
    [12/1/2019 7:48:17 AM] The Oracle: My observations confirm you are following the Path of Love, Anpu. Here is a small reward. Please return tomorrow if you would like to take this test again.
    [12/1/2019 7:48:17 AM]
    [12/1/2019 7:48:18 AM] You receive 500 gold!
    [12/1/2019 7:48:18 AM] You gained 1000 experience needed for skill development!
    [12/1/2019 7:48:25 AM] Anpu: Goodbye
    [12/1/2019 7:48:25 AM] The Oracle: Farewell, Anpu. Please see me again within a week.

    I am not having to say keywords multiple times.
     
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    I just did a quest reset on QA - and didn't have the issue ..yet

    ..but I found a new bug with this: Your character's "Path" is reset also - and speaking with an Oracle in a POT (in this example) can cause an endless dialog loop - need to use ESC to exit. I guess I should go to one of the starter scenes like a new character would, and see if this fixes it.

    [12/1/2019 11:17:44 AM] The Oracle: Welcome, Echondas. Let us discuss how I might serve you.
    [12/1/2019 11:17:45 AM] The Oracle: Yes, hello, Echondas. Do you seek my counsel on the path before you? Perhaps you are here regarding my protection? I can also test you on your knowledge of yourself, if you so wish.
    [12/1/2019 11:17:45 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:17:47 AM] Echondas: advice
    [12/1/2019 11:17:48 AM] The Oracle: I have been observing you since you arrived, Echondas. I can give you advice on the virtues that many have forsaken, and how your destiny intertwines with each of those virtues - specifically, Truth, Love, and Courage. Also, you may ask about anything you have encountered in your travels and I will answer as best I can.
    [12/1/2019 11:17:48 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:17:49 AM] Echondas: truth
    [12/1/2019 11:17:49 AM] The Oracle: Truth, without which communication with each other is a wasted endeavor. The elves of the Vertas plain search for the truth of their lives. How will you guide them? What example will you show?
    [12/1/2019 11:17:49 AM] The Oracle: This is your first time consulting me on this. I require weekly consultations for an optimal association. Please remain in compliance of this. I have observed your actions regarding your journey towards the nature of truth. What I have witnessed in general shows that you consider this virtue important.
    [12/1/2019 11:17:49 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:17:52 AM] Echondas: love
    [12/1/2019 11:17:52 AM] The Oracle: Love, the guiding principle of our need to be with another. The land of Ardoris is beset with the consequences of love forsaken. How will you guide them? What example will you show?
    [12/1/2019 11:17:52 AM] The Oracle: This is your first time consulting me on this. I require weekly consultations for an optimal association. Please remain in compliance of this. I have watched as you have continued on your journey towards the nature of love. What I have witnessed in general shows that you consider this virtue important.
    [12/1/2019 11:17:52 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:17:57 AM] Echondas: courage
    [12/1/2019 11:17:57 AM] The Oracle: Courage, without which we fall to our own devices of those who seek to take all that we value. The island of Norgard is struggling with the need for courage in their darkest hour. How will you guide them? What example will you show?
    [12/1/2019 11:17:57 AM] The Oracle: This is your first time consulting me on this. I require weekly consultations for an optimal association. Please remain in compliance of this. I have witnessed your actions regarding your journey towards the nature of courage. What I have witnessed in general shows that you consider this virtue important.
    [12/1/2019 11:17:57 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:18:00 AM] Echondas: test
    [12/1/2019 11:18:00 AM] The Oracle: This is your first time taking this test. Although there is a minor reward involved, do not worry if your answer is incorrect. You can always return later, and learning about yourself is a long, and necessary process. I have observed your actions while walking along the Path of Truth. Do you feel your actions demonstrate how to live according to the Virtue of Truth? Simply respond 'Yes I do', or 'No I do not'.
    [12/1/2019 11:18:00 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:18:01 AM] Echondas: yes
    [12/1/2019 11:18:02 AM] The Oracle: My observations confirm you are following the Path of Truth, Echondas. Here is a small reward. Please return tomorrow if you would like to take this test again.
    [12/1/2019 11:18:02 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:18:02 AM] You receive 500 gold!
    [12/1/2019 11:18:02 AM] You gained 1000 experience needed for skill development!
    [12/1/2019 11:18:04 AM] Echondas: bye
    [12/1/2019 11:18:04 AM] The Oracle: I must still perform an analysis of your affinity to the virtues, Echondas. Please let me know if you are ready to begin assessment.
    [12/1/2019 11:18:04 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:18:10 AM] Echondas: bye
    [12/1/2019 11:18:10 AM] The Oracle: I must still perform an analysis of your affinity to the virtues, Echondas. Please let me know if you are ready to begin assessment.
    [12/1/2019 11:18:10 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:18:11 AM] Echondas: bye
    [12/1/2019 11:18:11 AM] The Oracle: I must still perform an analysis of your affinity to the virtues, Echondas. Please let me know if you are ready to begin assessment.
    [12/1/2019 11:18:11 AM]

    [12/1/2019 11:18:19 AM] Echondas: ready to begin
    [12/1/2019 11:18:20 AM] The Oracle: Your destiny is already decided, Echondas. With some effort, you may choose a different path... but one wonders if destiny can be changed in like manner.
    [12/1/2019 11:18:20 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:18:26 AM] Echondas: destiny
    [12/1/2019 11:18:26 AM] The Oracle: Your destiny is spoken of in the prophecy that precedes your arrival in New Britannia.
    [12/1/2019 11:18:26 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:18:29 AM] Echondas: path of the virtues
    [12/1/2019 11:18:30 AM] The Oracle: By the path of the virtues, I speak of the path that you are on, Echondas. Your arrival has been foretold in prophecy, and the road that you travel is also pre-ordained preordained, and it will shape all of those that you meet on your way. We will speak more of this at your journey's conclusion.
    [12/1/2019 11:18:30 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:18:38 AM] Echondas: Goodbye
    [12/1/2019 11:18:38 AM] The Oracle: I must still perform an analysis of your affinity to the virtues, Echondas. Please let me know if you are ready to begin assessment.
    [12/1/2019 11:18:38 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:18:39 AM] The Oracle: Yes, hello, Echondas. Do you seek my counsel on the path before you? Perhaps you are here regarding my protection? I can also test you on your knowledge of yourself, if you so wish.
    [12/1/2019 11:18:39 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:18:42 AM] Echondas: bye
    [12/1/2019 11:18:42 AM] The Oracle: I must still perform an analysis of your affinity to the virtues, Echondas. Please let me know if you are ready to begin assessment.
    [12/1/2019 11:18:42 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:18:43 AM] Echondas: bye
    [12/1/2019 11:18:43 AM] The Oracle: I must still perform an analysis of your affinity to the virtues, Echondas. Please let me know if you are ready to begin assessment.
    [12/1/2019 11:18:43 AM]
    [12/1/2019 11:18:44 AM] Echondas: bye
    [12/1/2019 11:18:45 AM] The Oracle: I must still perform an analysis of your affinity to the virtues, Echondas. Please let me know if you are ready to begin assessment.
    [12/1/2019 11:18:45 AM]


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    SotA.QA.Win.64.894.Date.11.27.19
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    Make sure to report that as a seperate new issue @Echondas

    Also @Echondas are you using the latest Nvidia GEForce 441.41 Drivers?

    Let's try to hammer the exact details of the talking bug:

    1. You start and login to the game.
    2. Do you select resume or start on overland map?
    3. What character is logging into the game? Main character? Secondary, third? Fourth?
    4. After your characters loads, what specific activities or thing are you doing before you speak to the oracle?

    I'll *assume* when you login, that's when you go immediately to the Oracle? I actually do the Love Letter quest first, then run back to my POT then speak to the Oracle.

    Of note (for me) she never makes any sounds when speaking.
     
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    I'll keep playing with it and see if I can find the secret sauce -- i'm on latest/greatest drivers - but this has been happening for months now, so I doubt it's a client-side issue. Pretty sure I've done it in multiple combinations of the above, all main character.

    .. so far, it appears the quest reset fixed it for me on QA - but I can't tell until I do more quests or wait until the Oracle quest timer resets.
     
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    I think the the quest flags are a good avenue to investigate.

    I'm on a Mac. So, no likely a driver/os specific issue. I have separate accounts and do not see the issue on my main. But, I do see it on at least one of the alts. I doubt it's the main quests. But, my main has the shroud and many completed quests. The alt account I'm seeing this on has completed only a few of the original starter quests. I wonder if it's a flag for a quests that was long since been disabled/removed. Just a wild guess though.
     
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    Also curious, how old is your install @Echondas and @Paladin Michael ?

    I do a complete fresh install of SotA every 5 releases. I last installed at release 70.
     
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    Also did all quests.
    @Sannio, I hope this has nothing to do with the HAMMER quest I mentioned before ... ;)
     
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    I had to reinstall a few releases before ... So this unfortunately couldn't be a solution.
     
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