Fight for your rights - rights matters!

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  1. Geaux

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    @Winterweaver No good deed shall go unpunished! But thanks for trying!
     
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    Dude, that throwback Beastie vid was soooo DOPE! By far the absolute best part of this otherwise useless thread! Thanks for doing what you do!
     
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    What can I say - other than ... *bows* to your reply.

    You are most welcome :)
     
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    A completely useless humorous off topic comment (if others can, so can I) ...

    I see a lot of negativity, anger or 'close to hate' comments in this thread and in me previous one. That leads me to ponder on the fact (another fact) ... if it it possible to create an anti tool?

    If so I'll name the new concept tool: 'Positive Trolling'. ;)
     
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    Or perhaps "Forum Faction" could be implemented!
     
  6. Cordelayne

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    Well I was just trying to bring some levity to the thread, I don't think it's useless. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, views, concerns, etc. My only hope was to make folks smile and laugh before things devolve like they usually do. :)
     
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    See now - that is something. Two factions: The Positives and the Negatives. Then eventually it would be possible to list all the +'s and -'s and see if the forum increases or decreases quality level.

    The only problem in this is ... my alignment is Chaotic Neutral, so I would be in the exact middle and be a huge Zero.

    As we all know zero's have no value and doesn't count - so I would be either attacked from either side or be in the middle of the fight (hmm I think I already am - so it might work).

    Thumbs up - I vote Aye.

    I just love self irony!
     
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    I like it...Same here with my sweater pic/comment in my auto-attack post (however belated it may be) :)
     
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    Lol, for fun I took an alignment test thinking I would be my usual, "Chaotic Good". Seems in my "old age" I have gotten more lawful in my disposition and am now "Neutral Good". ;)

    http://easydamus.com/alignment.html
     
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    Actually it isn't. LLC's don't need CEO's. LLC's of small companies pretty much never have them.
     
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    Is that all ya got for me?

    School in session:

    LLC's hire CEO's all the time. No, they are not "Required" to have them, but if they choose to structure them this way, it is entirely appropriate. I have hired CEO's to run LLCs where I was the managing member/manager. Also, LLCs can elect to be treated as a Corp by the IRS.

    It was my appreciation concerning the matter at hand, that Chris Spears was in fact CEO of Portalarium, Inc. Obviously you are much more knowledgeable on this subject matter than me...so I will defer to your superior intellect and vast business knowledge.

    However, I stand by my comment that you were trying to diminish the goodwill intended by the OP.
     
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    None of that contradicts what I said. It rewords what I said though, to the same effect. So..... Good school session I guess?

    Catnip isn't port, Chris isn't listed anywhere I've seen as CEO of catnip. As they said themselves, the titles are pointless in a company their size.

    And no, not diminishing any goodwill, it's great the issue was sorted, merely pointing out it wasn't some intervention of a large company CEO that resolved his issue, more that of a man balcony many plates, including the plate holding finances, which is also why it took several avenues to get attention on it. The overall act of keeping the other plates spinning while doing that doesn't diminish anything.
     
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    You seem to be the person that introduced Chris as the CEO of Catnip...

    My monthly receipt for subscription is from Portalarium.

    Technically. OP called Chris the CEO of "the company", which I believe Chris is listed as CEO of Port, per Wiki anyway...whether or not Port was sold to Catnip.

    Ok, you win! Thanks for the mental sparring...
     
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    OUCH - THAT hurts.

    Chaotic neutral described me actually quite well.

    THEN I took the alignment test (should never have done that - I just lost my personal freedom!).

    I must have done something wrong, because NOW I am Lawful Good. Scored 16 in Good and 11 in Neutral.

    Yikes I have NO evil in me. Why can't I be like the rest of the world?
    A painful discovery.
     
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    A lot of people, including some still here, feel severely mislead, disappointed, ripped off, 'insert your own adjective here' etc. A lot of the seemingly useless negativity very often (at this point) boils over, even in the middle of the seemingly most benign of topics.

    Most every negative comment is typically representative of a long list of arguments and negative comments.

    Often, the level of vitriol is a measure of financial 'investment' put forth.

    What was a envisioned as a sprint turned into a marathon with a premature start.

    Some people's anger has turned to hate and has now surpassed their desire for the game to succeed, and can't allow a positive reflection of the powers that be without trying to diminish it.

    I've been that person, and I dare say, Chris would decline my lunch invitations (i'm actually very nice) which is why I post on this account and not my main. I've been banned and unbanned and re-banned by every customer service forums moderator we have ever had, from Fire Lotus, to Berek, and even including Chris himself. I've come to terms with it. I behave 'mostly' on this account in hopes I can still participate, despite my past transgressions of pointing out facts in a not very nice way. I'm a strong believer in responsibility, metrics, and accountability, and don't have a lot of patience for excuses or inexperience from professionals. Sure is funny how important that stuff is to success and deadlines.

    It's been a rough ride, with peaks so high we dared to dream, and valleys so low, it has crushed our soul, passion, and wallet.

    Mistakes were made, some very big ones. But the game can still be great, and is already in a lot of ways, it just isn't finished and polished enough for prime time and honestly it will be another year or 2 before it really is, and i'm okay with that (now).


    I assume by your post count that you are relatively new(er) here. Take all negativity with a grain of salt and absolutely don't take any of it personally as an affront to you or your topic. It's not directed at you, as I would most definitely bet by your character, you have done nothing worthy of such while you have been here.

    aka
    Grumpy Krabnevir

    PS. Shroud 2020 post by Chris looks great. They get that done and, they will win in the end, just not same road trip as originally envisioned.
     
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    That's not introducing him as a ceo at all, that's saying the title would silly under the circumstances, as agreed by the the staff.

    You were only sparring with yourself on that one, so no need for thanks.
     
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    @Jackrabbit

    Don't worry. I am not a person taking it personally. I am actually somehow controversial because I stand up to my words and opinion - so any attempt to make me change my mind about the customer service I had ... was/is futile. And some people probably don't like that.

    When that is said I have no doubt that some of the posters behind their attempts must have experienced something that was a reason for their anger.

    Still - that can't change the service I had.

    *

    But what I do know is, that promises can lead to lawsuits:

    https://massivelyop.com/2019/06/07/the-archeage-lawsuit-drags-on/

    Quotes: "The ArcheAge consumer lawsuit against Trion Worlds is still inching onward.

    and ... "It seems weird to be writing about Trion Worlds again, but here we are. MMO players will recall that back in 2015, three gamers filed a class action lawsuit"

    Source: Bree Royce - June 7, 2019.

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    https://mmofallout.com/ipe-update-t...ng-to-a-close-as-parties-agree-on-settlement/

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    Gamigo Preparing To Settle 4 Year Old Trion Lawsuit:

    https://www.mmobomb.com/news/gamigo-preparing-settle-4-year-old-trion-lawsuit/

    Quote: "Among some of the less cool things that can come from acquiring a company are any legal issues the company may be having at the time."

    Source: QuintLyn -August 13, 2019.

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    I started playing ArcheAge - a Korean game represented by TrionWorlds - one month after its launch and despite that (for some reason) have never been treated badly by any customer service, I also am aware of consequences of golden promises not being kept.

    Game companies can learn from the Trion lawsuit, as some players in other games dare to fight for their rights.

    A miracle happened with AA, today represented by Gamigo.

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    I experienced myself bad service in the sense that some exploits took more than 2½ month to fix - because the exploits actually promoted sales in their cash shop!
    The in-game economy came to a near halt while players desperately tried to uphold their lots, properties and economy - until some players had enough and started to fight for their rights.

    And despite that I sometimes can be naive and hope for the best, I also ... at the first sign of fraud, being mislead or my tickets being ignored start to fight for my rights. (Some Online Casino's have bitterly experienced that fact).

    So ... conclusion and summary: I take it easy as long as I am treated in a decent way. That's why my experiences can't be affected.

    But I DO respect other players experiences: "Observe and reflect".

    I hope that brings my attitude in a better perspective :)
     
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    Not true, CEO has an obligation to the Stock Holders, not the staff. :p
     
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    The CEO has an obligation to both...
     
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    I agree completely, the title would silly!

    Again...you win!
     
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