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Discussion in 'Release 74 Feedback' started by Cirsee, Jan 24, 2020.

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  1. Cirsee

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    Not sure if you intended this or not, so I will make it a feedback note. When testing in overland skeleton encounters, the liches here spawn much tougher with the same mechanics you mention in UT. The mage I can't beat. It has always been my assumption that these encounters were kind of a mid range thing for players. The mage is too tough for me to beat as a mage myself. In archer build, it is much easier.

    So I supposed I should just make this that the liches in overland encounters also have the teleport you around ability. If you didn't intend to pass on the behaviors, then this would be a bug.
     
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    Good intel, thanks! :)
     
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    chris did mention all liches would be tougher and they are already mage banes. As far as the new behaviors idk nice catch.
     
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    Indeed he did, he just replied to me -- Intended! Fear the liches! ;)
     
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    Hold on, I've encountered liches on the random undead encounters on the overland map. Are these boosted too now?
     
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    Yep and I’d assume dungeons too. I don’t agree that their loot is already rlly good though. Be nice to get a slight boost :D
     
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    Just so I have my facts straight here, the overland roving Skeleton encounters, when activating the wave encounter here (killing the Ebon Dawn), spawns Lich’s that are the equivalent to the same Lich’s found in upper tiers. This is intended.
     
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    no, but they have all scale up a little, they have better than most loot dropers and will become harder for mages, but I doubt melee or archer or life/sun mages will notice much.
     
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    I'm going to quote you here, @Dark Tidings as I have a couple of questions:
    Are you saying ALL lich's have "scaled up a little" or just certain lich's ?

    Again, does this apply to ALL lich's ?

    And finally, did you get this info from Chris on a recent stream or what ?
     
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    heya bud, Chris said more than once in streams all liches will be getting a little tougher. He also said they have the best loot tables per tier currently.

    Loot is better on the same tier content for liches, it’s one reason why he is justifying a Lille upgrade in thier power levels.
     
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    All I can confirm is the skeleton overland encounters.. haven't checked elsewhere.. the tanks will teleport you around and the mages hit like a truck (at least for caster types) along with stuns. I did not notice any loot improvements. The other issue is that, when they spawn. you used to get a few seconds delay before the second and third lich spawn... you no longer get more than 1 second in between. So all three are on you at once.
     
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    Um, @Cirsee ... How exactly do the "tanks" teleport you around ?
     
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    Hey, DT....
    Do you have any idea what Chris is thinking when he says: "they have the best loot tables per tier currently" ?

    IE, what does Chris consider in any of the lich loot that would make it the best ??

    A rusty button ??
     
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    I've got one of my skeletons lying around somewhere because I got careless in my fitst skeleton encounter after a year's absence. And that's in this release, r74 liches will be even tougher.

    If there are any old player guides that still mark these random encounters as beginner level then these should be modified or at least have a note indicating the true adventurer level.
     
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    And you're right...
    They have made some stuff tougher, IMO that should mean "Since it's more difficult, then shouldn't the reward for higher difficulty mean higher rewards for the - more effort/skills that it takes to defeat them" ???
     
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    I assume this is a pull or push with polearms.

    My understanding is the reward was already out of whack, they over rewarded for their difficulty, this brings them in line.

    I do agree, if they are making all liches harder, then i would remove liches and replace them with Tier 5 level skeleton in the skeleton random encounters. Else between wyverns, dragons etc there will not be many random encounters lower level characters could solo. As these instances are private getting a friend to help is not easy, have to remember where on the map you were and they have to run there as you cant teleport to a private instance.


    Regards
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    So what I noticed was.. with the fighter liches.. you got hit with a purple haze cloud and you moved; not far.
     
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    Not sure if they're the same everywhere, but a lot of the ones in the 2k hp range (previously) have a very high drop rate of scythes and usually drop 75-100 gold each in addition to essence and skulls. They can also have some rare artifact drops. I've gotten a few ankhs from them in the past in compendium.

    edit: They also gave about 15k xp each.
     
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    ALL LICHES everywhere are stronger. No need to confirm each place, just remember EVERY WHER.
     
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    I tried Chilblaine's and can make it to the Lich room no problem; but I'm no where close to getting through that room. I know I'm challenged by being death/polearms but is anyone soloing that room?
     
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