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Give abandoned/empty POT's a ruined village look on the Overland Map

Discussion in 'Wishlist Requests' started by Anpu, Feb 19, 2020.

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  1. Anpu

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    Totally stealing this from @Numa but this was a GREAT idea, and really should be a Wishlist item.

    For the Player Owned Town's that are not getting any (or too few) visitors, give them the appearance of a ruined village on the Overland Map.

    Perhaps a POT that has not had any visitors at all in 20(?) days, or has less than 10 visitors in 20(?) days then get's the ruined village look on the Overland Map.

    This would, at a glance, let players know which POT's seem to be active at least (from a New Player Prospective).
     
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    What would be even more interesting is if once that POT did get that "Abandonned" designation if there was some kind of way there could be "squatters" or people able to place rent-free houses or something.
     
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    It would have to be truly squalid though. No victorian village houses or anything. Perhaps like @Numa showed in illustration, decayed but claimable lots where one can place maybe just one chest and live roofless decayed, bug-ridden, bat infested structures that let the elements in. True ghettos.
     
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    Why not just kick inactive PoTs while you're at it?

    I admire the thought but it's not a good idea. Let's make all items in the game that aren't used, 'dim', 'dingy' and 'marked' for no consumption.

    How about giving people a reason to login and make PoT's great and un-abandoned!
     
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    I paid thousands of dollars for my ghost town to be the way it is, permanently, and on the map forever.
    A permanent part of the world we helped create.
     
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    inactive overland Player Owned Town!
    Turns in to a Nested Town if gov does not log in for 12 m0's
    Repack into the game account if gov does not log in for 24 m0's
    an I'm sure the dev's can look at account info to do this for old towns that just been abandoned/empty forever
    and if some of the accounts have more then one town offer coto buy back for them or even town upgrade

    The game needs a TOS for Player Owned Town!
     
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    I think really, if the Governor comes online they'd have the ability to demolish the ghettos and immediately exile the squatters.
     
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    Too late for that on existing lands. Turn the screws on the new lands but leave the old alone.
     
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    I daresay a lot of interesting and creative stuff happens in the ghettos ;) That's how gentrification happens. I do not agree that overland ghettos should be made nested.
     
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    Nope gov Haven't login for 2 years they not going to play lol

    allow to charge the tos at any time!
     
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    They can change the TOS whenever but this idea of kicking inactive PoTs is a waste of time. Make the game great so that there won't be inactive PoTs. Take your torches in the proper direction.
     
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    it will make the game feel/look less dead lol
    like deeds have a timer till unclaimed pot's need the same thing
     
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    Never mind this is not friendly to POT governors/stewards (and I'm one who has an empty POT because I've been taking a whule getting things set up, not that I've abandoned anything), it's also not new player friendly. New players want to visit ruins. And when they enter a hex with a ruin, they expect to see a ruin.

    The only players this helps are those that have been around and know what the devs have done. This is a problem with way too much in the game so far. Old players keep asking for things that make things less intuitive and more difficult for new players. (Hint: new players like immersion)

    POTs on the map should ideally look as they are when you enter them. Right now, if you don't have people living there, you see empty lots foundations on the map. If you don't even have any lots placed, you shouldn't even see these lot foundations, because its misleading to players passing by on the overland. You should just see empty wilderness. Players will see empty wilderness and not even bother looking in

    What you see should always be what you get.

    As far as POTs being considered "abandoned" this should be partly a function of either the governor or steward logging in, same as it is for housing where the owner just need to log in to keep his lot. Not a function of visitors. How this should be handled, I don't know, but I think showing ruins when there aren't ruins is a bad idea.

    Aside from that, I don't see a problem with immersive ideas for giving hints to players about town activity.

    I've suggested putting footprints in the game before. The previous suggestion was about temporary tracks trailing you in things like sandy or snowy environments, like in Poekmon games. See thread here. But I think it would be cool if when a town was well visited, there would be tracks in the ground near the town entrance. Tracks from feet, horses, carts, etc.

    This would only help when you entered, yes, but it would be cool. Though the town tooltip could have a note saying the town looks well visited (I think saying it looks abandoned on the other hand would be a bad idea)

    Honestly, though, instead of expecting players to randomly visit towns, I hope the devs put in a real notice board system where players can advertise shops, guilds, events, jobs. Town-wide, and then notices could be propagated regionally or worldwide. Then, people would be drawn to towns through advertisements, and random visits would be more pointless.
     
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    Throwing one more thing into the (boiling) pot. Once a dead POT is represented by ruins on the overland map, let the monsters in.

    So this would be an incentive for passersby to drop in, kill a few mobs and just maybe claim a lot and stay for a while. Then eventually the (overland) ruins will become a town again.

    Of course this might tempt a few governors of active towns to make them inactive for a while to intentionally make this very thing happen :)
     
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    Intriguing but how about leaving POTs alone. There are so many other things that need attention.
     
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    Why limit this to just dead POTs?

    Some of us want fauna with our flora... oh right, they don't want player owned adventure scenes.
     
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    Hey, I'd like this too for the POT i live in but the topic was about dead POTS. If it was me, I'd give the governors the choice to toggle on the adventure scene mode for their towns for player-run events or special occasions.

    Would like nothing better than to stand on the second floor balcony of our inn and snipe away all day at the monsters wandering about on the street below.
     
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    Greetings all and Anpu
    I would not base the change on visitors to a town, I would base it on active residents. If a town has a few residents that are active you should leave it alone. I know the is one town that was bought and only the Governor lives there. They do not want company. Plus there are a lot of nested towns that get no visitors only the people who live there. I agree with @Numa that overworld towns should be changed to ruins if they are truly a ghost town and if they are nested then who cares no one sees them anyway.

    One not for @redfish. There was a great idea that never made to where it needed to be and that was the Billboard you could place at the entrance to your town. The problem was that only the Governor and maybe the residents could place post on it. It would be great if these could be opened up so everyone could place a post on a public Billboard. Then we could advertise anything anywhere. The Governor could set a timer for how long a post could be shown.
     
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    Anyone in this thread that does not own a POT, should not say a word. You did not spend $0 money for said Item, so you get 0 say. Having said that, it is really annoying that ALL of these people want to tell someone what they can and can not do with what they purchased. Stop trying to control other people stuff. If a guy wants an empty pot, or not log in, they have the right. When they log back in EVERYTHING should be as it was. They own the damn land.

    Many people have Waited/will wait a whole nother year for "Ep 2" again.
     
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