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[Dev Review] Mining iron only 1's

Discussion in 'Crafting, Harvesting, Salvage, & Agriculture' started by Ysold, May 7, 2021.

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    05/08/2021 01:19
    Title: Mining Iron only 1's
    Reproduction Rate: in 50+ mining attempts
    Blocker? No but very annoying
    Details: When mining today in Serpent Spine Foothills, I noticed I was only getting 1 iron ore per hit. My mining skill is 114. I'm used to getting 1, 2 or 3 ore per hit. I moved to Troll's Bridge but there also I got only 1 iron ore. Silver in the same area behaved as normal (1, 2 or 3 per hit).
    Edit: I did get an additional Nickel or Tungsten now and then.
    Steps to Reproduce: Mine iron for a while
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    OS: Windows 10 (10.0.0) 64bit
    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9300HF CPU @ 2.40GHz (8) System RAM: 16304
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 GPU RAM: 5980
    SotA.Win.64.1382.Date.05.01.21
    Area: POT_forest_metropolis_01a_template/Beregost
    Area Display Name: Beregost
    Loc: (54.0, 38.2, 314.6)
    Debug: UE9UX2ZvcmVzdF9tZXRyb3BvbGlzXzAxYV90ZW1wbGF0ZXxCZXJlZ29zdHwoNTMuOTgsIDM4LjIzMiwgMzE0LjYzNil8KDAsIDAuOTYsIDAsIDAuMjgpfDE0Ny44MDM2fDEwfDEuMjU=
     
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    I also went through this scene doing several outer ring loops harvesting all the iron nodes here. This is a tier 4 scene. The ore nodes here give 2000 crafting xp. and then give 1 Iron Ore and then 1-2 Granite. 1 node in the scene did give 2 Iron ore. The rest all give 1 Iron ore. This was from harvesting an ore node and no meticulous happened. As well as a critical harvest (nothing happens now when you have a critical harvest) You just get the same basic harvest and crafting xp.

    If you have a meticulous, you only get the number of ore from the meticulous and not the base harvest. For example if I get a 2X meticulous, I only get 2 ore. Not 1 + 2 ore from the 2x meticulous. And even from a 4x meticulous I only got 4 ore. I get no base ore (1 ore + 4 meticulous).

    I think something here seems to be not working? As a tier 4 scene aren't the ore nodes supposed to be giving more ore like 2? Not always 1?

    05/07/2021 21:38
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    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 0 @ 3.60GHz (8) System RAM: 16303
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 GPU RAM: 8079
    SotA.Win.64.1382.Date.05.01.21
    Area: Novia_R9_Hills01_SerpentsSpineMinesEntrance
    Area Display Name: Serpent's Spine Foothills
    Loc: (-159.3, 60.5, 2.9)
    Debug: Tm92aWFfUjlfSGlsbHMwMV9TZXJwZW50c1NwaW5lTWluZXNFbnRyYW5jZXx8KC0xNTkuMjg5LCA2MC40NjIsIDIuODg2KXwoMCwgMC41MjEsIDAsIC0wLjg1NCl8NDI1LjIxNzN8NDUuMzY0MzV8MTg=
     
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    cannot verify. i got this in serpent's spine, no meticulous:

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    troll's bridge:

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    ...but it's true that most were singletons. i went to the big nodes in tanglemire for a bit and most were singles there too. i randomly looked at an older log from ulfheim last june, and most of my iron mining there were singletons too. if this is a change, it's not a recent one, and not a tier-4 specific one. @Ysold, do you have chatlogs (use /datafolder command) showing you regularly getting more in that scene?

    that's correct. the meticulous count includes the initial mine. there's no such thing as a 1x meticulous.
     
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    Found a log from januari 27th, same character, same area, lower mining skill (probably under GM).
    It contains 34 times 1 iron; 9 times 2 iron; 1 time 3 iron.
     
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    Was there a specific Weekly Update or Release Notes that goes over the addition of this new meticulous system when it was added?
     
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    It must have been at least a year ago, Anpu, since I haven't seen the system you're describing in my gathering career,
     
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    Newest data from today's Troll's Bridge sessions (Mining at 115):
    71x 1 iron; 7x 2 iron; 0x 3 iron
    compared to silver in the same session:
    26x 1 silver; 9x 2 silver; 2x 3 silver

    Ok, so it's not all 1's when you check larger numbers, but I really think the yield of iron is very low compare to silver.
     
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    I think I have it figured out now: the higher this character's mining skill gets, the less iron she will mine and the more Nickel and Tungsten. So to get a better iron yield she'd need to DROP her mining skill back to 100. Now this can't be the intention of the bonus metals with iron (and with copper)!
     
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    What specific Mining skill level was your character at, and what level did you lower it to?
     
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    DIdn't lower it yet - was waiting for confirmation :) She's now at 115 Mining.
     
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    that count alone isn't useful, as a lot of those one-offs are from meticulous.

    putting this in for dev review before you go untraining things.
     
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