Double sized city lot for Dukes

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  1. Sundews

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    We're talking virtual land here and for a small handful of people.
     
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    The maths is in the first post. LOTMs paid 4x Baron and get a 4x lot size. Dukes pay 2x but only get a 1x size. That's the pure numbers level.

    The picture of the new LOTM lots suggest to me that they will no longer be in town but outside (just a guess) which would free up space. As already mentioned, there can (in theory) be 2x the number of LOTMs that Dukes.
     
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    I think you're misreading my intended meaning in some ways. I was saying, on a pure numbers level, the LotMs paid more than everyone else -- and that's why they were first to get it.
     
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    Yep, I misread. Apologies for the mistake.

    I agree that they can go first and have the largest. I'd not be too fussed if their rewards are better than double of the dukes. It seems fair enough since they pledged the most.
     
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    The answer to that is quite simple.

    Citizens through knights get a village lot. I can't see them giving more to knights just because they would have to start sub-dividing the base unit of a lot. Which would be a lot more coding
    Lords get town lots
    barons get city lots

    you see the symmetry there, the pledge leves increase evenly.

    If Dukes got 2 city lots that would fit that symmetry as LOTM get 4 lots
    That also fits their pledge level finances as LOTMs paid twice as much as dukes.
     
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    No harm, no foul :)
     
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    I support a larger lot for Dukes. I think a 5K+ pledge is worthy of it.
     
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    Excellent points! Last night, I visited a LOTM castle lot, and I can confirm they are next to the town. So that frees up space for larger Duke lots. This makes me think the developers are already planning to increase the Duke lot sizes.
     
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    I would be ok if the Duke level got 2 tax free city lots. Instead of redoing the city lots already created. Or a 2x lot.
     
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    It would be nice and greatly appreciated
     
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    You watch, after Apr 7
    Duke1,2,3 sold out , buy a Duke4 with double land for only 400 more with added title Duke Nukem.
    Knight sold out, knight 2 with city plot land for an added $200
    Wait for it...
     
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    I understand that they are close to 50 Dukes now. Don't think there will be Duke 2,3,4 or others.
     
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    Can't tell if this is trolling or legit....

    50? You might be the only person that knows that then. I'm naively going on the 10 slots maximum from kickstarter.
     
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    This was in a email that I received.

    "just the top two tiers of our backers. Under 50 people as of today."

    Now I could be miss reading it and that number includes the LotM which is what 20? So that would leave about 30 in the Duke's.
     
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    Well I think you're mis-interpretting what they are saying.

    "under 50" does not mean there are 50. It means there could be 20 LOTMs and 10 Dukes, that would be 30 people. Which is under 50.
     
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    the answer is kind of pointless without the question. we would need both the question and the answer with each in full context. but the top 2 tiers would be LotM and dukes.


    50 would be my calculation of LotM + dukes. probably 30-40 LotM and 6-10 dukes


    i don't think dukes should be given a different lot size, it's not much different from baron 3 price. and doing so would reduce the incentive to upgrade their pledge to LotM.
     
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    This had me scratching my head but I revisited KS. There can be a maximum of 40 LOTMs. And 10 dukes. Or 50 in top two tiers.

    40 LOTM lots is not hard work but 10 duke plots is? Think that argument is dead now.
     
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    Would have to compare a theoretical duke 3 with an actual baron 3 for a fair comparison. I don't think a b3 should have been added but that's another point.

    Edit
    Before there is a maths failure, allow me to present the numbers:
    5k/3k is 1.66. (D to B)
    3.7k is a 23% increase on 3k. (B3 to B)
    5k increased by 23% is 6166. (D to D3)
    6166/ 3700 is 1.66 (D3 compared to B3).

    QED.
     
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    I think you have me lost now. The top two tiers are Lord of the Manor (LotM, $10,000) and Duke (Duke, $5,000).

    LotM as of closing of Kickstarter was 9 of 20 and 2 of 2 . Together that would be 11 of 20 Duke was at 5 of 10. Together that would be 16 of 30.

    The email I received was a statement. "just the top two tiers of our backers. Under 50 people as of today."

    So yea I did read into this and you are correct. Maybe there are only 5 Duke's at the 5k pledge and maybe there was a lot more (40+) at 10k pledges. I do disagree with 30 people. Then why would someone say under 50 when they could say just over 30 or under 40 or under 45 or just a bit lower then 35 or just over 25. The list could go on. The point is that if they say close to 50 then I do believe that the number is in the 40's and I would go with more than 45 but less then 50.

    Not following this. $10,000 pledges I would think would be harder to raises then $5000 pledges. Heck again maybe I am wrong.

    Well not sure where this is going. Not sure what level the people posted are pledged at and guess I should not have posted.

    Thanks,
     
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    I think that is around a 66% increase in the cost (from baron 1). Personal I think that is a bit more then a little bit of different. The baron 2,3 were a sold out baron 1 level from kickstarter. This was SotA tacking on addition fees to people that pledged later then the first group. A baron 1,2, or 3 are all the same pledge group but with a penalty for pledging later then the group before. For the increase cost they were giving a different ship then the baron 1 group.
     
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