The Paladins meat the Necros&Cannibals in Yin&Tang Polarity

"The Paladins meat the Necromancers & Cannibals in Yin & Tang Polarity"

Who is this guy?

(I didn't want to get banned, so I chose "Bewitched" Elizabeth Montgomery's portrayal of Lizzie Borden)

"The Polarities of Boarders and Common Cause"
There is enough polarity between these two styles of play for us to be able to meet, clash and find both sides boundaries to help better define the other.

"The Differences"
The Paladin wishes to serve mankind and justice, the Necromancer wishes to hangout with Darkstarr and raise the dead to do their bidding, and the Cannibals wish to serve mankind for their consumption leading to power.

"The Play Styles"
There will be presumably more players that will wish to play the lawful Paladin, than there will be players who will wish to become our Necromancers and Cannibals, yet these two niche markets can become a force to complement the Paladin in contrast of conflict. But still, there does also seem a low level conflict of interest between the Necromancer and Cannibal. One consumes what the other needs to produce their undead. Should each of these niche markets complement or be in conflict with the other? Only our game's outcome can say right now, and we are not there yet.

"Their Needed Complement in Balance""
Yet all three of these styles of play do have one thing in common, and that is that (just as the thieves) their skills to have their particular style of play, may be spread between nonspecific skill trees. This causes the need of these very different play styles to become not only a scattered search for needed skills, but also the need to have "those skills that are found that do complement each style" to need a balance between even them, once these skills can be identified.

"Coming Together for Common Goal's in Discussion"
Each of these play styles thus do have the need to come together for their common talking points and need to find their boundaries within what they all could become, and thus give complement to the others play style for contrast and better gaming balanced fun.

"Stretch Goals of the Thread"
If it please the reader, I wish for you all to understand that this thread is not for the discussion of "whether or not these play styles will be made available", but more to the points of; identifying where and what the needed skills can be located within the known trees of skill understanding... also to the invention of skills that are needed, and to contrasting those ideas for balance within future builds of our game.

All Our as of yet, "Hypothetical Play Styles"

"Greetings to the Cannibals"
This is the Cannibal's issue thread listed here below...
https://shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/cannibalism-game-mechanics-pt-1-of-2.10761/
https://shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/eating-our-friends-rg-talked-about-this.10643/

"Greetings to the Necromancers"
This is the Necromancer's thread here below...
https://shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/necromancer-stuff.13463/

"Greetings To The Undead"
As this thread deals in hypothetical styles of play, this is their creative thread below...
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/bring-in-undead-as-playable-race.13532/

"Greeting to the Paladins and Clerics"
This is their idea thread listen here below...
https://shroudoftheavatar.com/forum...-spells-how-and-why-they-should-change.13475/

Thank You All For Reading and Sharing Your Comments!
~Time Lord~

 

Nice thread sir time lord! May you rule the universe!

 

*Spits on any paladins posts*

 

That's Stephen T Colbert! He's amazing (quite a funny satirist).

My whole real Paladin background is set in both Diablo and D&D: Pathfinder, and in both of those I think they derive their powers from a holy source (a deity). The fun thing with pathfinder is that a paladin will lose his magical power if he goes against his alignment and deity; also, if they really go against their alignment and swear fealty to a evil deity they will become an anti-paladin (this is basically as you would figure, paladin like abilities but with disease and death). So perhaps that can fit into our discussion, since we really have no deities, one can just choose to be an anti-pali.

 

Aye!, go ask Arthas if he's still a good Paladin.
A Paladin can start being lawful, yes... until he turns awful!, why not a Necropalacannibal?.
A Corrupted Paladin using cursed bones from his fallen foes to raise skeletal minions, unholy protection spells and unholy enchants to curse his sword and do evil/demonic damage to light beings.
He could be a cannibal because he likes to eat body parts from his fallen foes because "that's how he gains their strenght/soul" (faster health regen and "evil mana?" regen buff for "x" time).

Edit: what i wrote above it's just for fun, don't take this serious, please. lol

 

I think this is over thinking things a bit. Setting aside for a moment that we as of yet have no official word on anything apart from body part trophies and what the devs are not quite in full agreement on.

All of these things could be managed through whatever virtue system is devised and the current skillset. In terms of harvesting we have forestry and field dressing. It's essentially a mechanical kind of skill so it shouldn't matter all the much what it is you're taking apart.

As for necromancy that can all be contained within the existing magic schools.

Traditional paladin's are moot. SotA has no known deity. So you RP it and make a paladin style battle mage.

The big difference between all these is one tries to do good and others blatantly do evil. They are what they are.

If there's any conflict of interests between cannibals and necromancers I can't imagine it ever surfaces unless there's a shortage of supply.. and in either case, cannibals require "fresh material".. necromancers do not. Not unless they're trying to make something that actually passes for being alive.

 

It sounds like we are returning to the Age of Shadows to me...

 

why not they already have the elves from mondains legacy

 

According to this, druids possibly did human sacrifices. Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid#Sacrifice

Sacrifice



An 18th century illustration of a wicker man, the form of execution that Caesar alleged the druids used for human sacrifice. From the "Duncan Caesar", Tonson, Draper, and Dodsley edition of the Commentaries of Caesar translated by William Duncan published in 1753.
Further information: Celts and human sacrifice, Threefold death and Ritual of oak and mistletoe
Greek and Roman writers frequently made reference to the druids as practitioners of human sacrifice, a trait they themselves reviled, believing it to be barbaric.[26] Such reports of druidic human sacrifice are found in the works of Lucan, Julius Caesar, Suetonius and Cicero.[27] Caesar claimed that the sacrifice was primarily of criminals, but at times innocents would also be used, and that they would be burned alive in a large wooden effigy, now often known as a wicker man. A differing account came from the 10th-century Commenta Bernensia, which claimed that sacrifices to the deities Teutates, Esus and Taranis were by drowning, hanging and burning, respectively (see threefold death).
Diodorus Siculus asserts that a sacrifice acceptable to the Celtic gods had to be attended by a druid, for they were the intermediaries between the people and the divinities. He remarked upon the importance of prophets in druidic ritual:
"These men predict the future by observing the flight and calls of birds and by the sacrifice of holy animals: all orders of society are in their power... and in very important matters they prepare a human victim, plunging a dagger into his chest; by observing the way his limbs convulse as he falls and the gushing of his blood, they are able to read the future."
There is archaeological evidence from western Europe that has been widely used to back up the idea that human sacrifice was performed by the Iron Age Celts. Mass graves found in a ritual context dating from this period have been unearthed in Gaul, at both Gournay-sur-Aronde and Ribemont-sur-Ancre in what was the region of the Belgae chiefdom. The excavator of these sites, Jean-Louis Brunaux, interpreted them as areas of human sacrifice in devotion to a war god,[28][29] although this view was criticized by another archaeologist, Martin Brown, who believed that the corpses might be those of honoured warriors buried in the sanctuary rather than sacrifices.[30] Some historians have questioned whether the Greco-Roman writers were accurate in their claims. J. Rives remarked that it was "ambiguous" whether the druids ever performed such sacrifices, for the Romans and Greeks were known to project what they saw as barbarian traits onto foreign peoples including not only druids but Jews and Christians as well, thereby confirming their own "cultural superiority" in their own minds.[31] Taking a similar opinion, Ronald Hutton summarized the evidence by stating that "the Greek and Roman sources for Druidry are not, as we have received them, of sufficiently good quality to make a clear and final decision on whether human sacrifice was indeed a part of their belief system."[32] Nora Chadwick, an expert in medieval Welsh and Irish literature, who believed the Druids to be great philosophers, has also fervently purported the idea that they had not been involved in human sacrifice, and that such accusations were imperialist Roman propaganda.[33] National Geographic recently revealed evidence that "[suggests] that Druids possibly committed cannibalism and ritual human sacrifice." But Mark Horton, an archaeologist at the University of Bristol associated with these recent findings, states that if cannibalism was practised it was probably extremely rare; it may be evidence of increasing hunger and desperation as Roman invaders closed in, or even the result of battle atrocities.[34] Guy G. Stroumsa, as well as Thomas Hartwell Horne, states that these practices were eventually halted with the introduction and spread of Christianity in Europe, as well as in the Mediterranean region.[35][36]

 

Paladins "meat" - sounds tasty.

Oh, and Time Lord for Emperor of course!

 

I don't think that 'Age of Shadows' needs to be made into some kind of slander.

Short of a few design flaws, Chivalry & Necromancy (which had been planned for long before AoS) were pretty cool!

I just wish that they had been implemented pre-AoS.

It would have been nice to have seen Chiv./Nec. without the accompaniment of bs magic gear, pouch mounts, power scrolls, etc.

 

Awesome necro paladin fight scene!

 

"Paladins meat cannibals..."?

Freudian slip, or auto correct?

 

You might want to hide your utter imperviousness to humour, instead of wearing it like a standard

 

You might want to try harder to be humorous.

 

I was just meaning the Paladins and Necro expansion pack days.