Poll: Adult rated towns/basements in SotA? [UNOFFICIAL]

Yep, society is completely screwed up. Look at whats happening in the real world, civilians, CHILDREN and aid workers being blown up in Gaza and else where but just so long as no one sees a nipple, that would be HORRIBLE

 

Agreed with this.

I'm laughing because, no matter how tame or mild sexual content is, the modders will always ramp it up. It's the first thing they do. Human nature.

When I've seen some of the sexual mods in Dragon Age, now those are definitely pornographic. lol

 

I forgot all about her, but in UO, all I remember was she was a b* to kill & she hurt me a lot. lol

 

Stuff added by EA doesn't count. Richard had already left by then.

 

Why doesn't it count? I played UO until 2009. And so did a lot of other people, and they still do. It didn't make UO pornography.

 

I really don't know what you are talking about, because I have not put in the time to extract what I'm sure would be a profound set of truths from your writings. This does not upset or confuse me, and I don't have any interest in arguing with you. The point I was making was that in an MMORPG the players should have the greatest amount of freedom that can reasonably be engineered into the game, and that without the ability to be "bad" being "good" really means nothing. That's it. That's the whole message. It would be a mistake to think that I was talking about "true freedom" (whatever that means) or anything else that exists in a non-game context. I just want SoTA to be a big, wide world where almost anything is possible and where the players can be exactly who they want to be.

Also, your reference to The Godfather was noted and appreciated. And, I apologize for the "Moral Majority" comment. You probably did not deserve that!

 

To clarify, if it's brought up to say 'this stuff is in Ultima' therefore it fits in SotA.. and Richard created Ultima and left before it went in.. then it doesn't count. Perhaps I jumped the gun a bit I haven't followed this thread closely, but "Ultima had it" is an argument that is used far too often.

As for any other point I would make I already made it the 'other' thread from which this one spawned. In a nutshell, no mechanic is needed. Players can RP as they will and Black screens between two players is pointless. Since it's between the two players who both must consent whether there's a black screen or not and any 3rd part must take their word for it whether there's a black screen or not. (Black screens with an NPC is another thing entirely and is fine.. just between two players it's meaningless).

 

Its sad, during Kickstarter RG lamented the lack of TRUE Role playing games and the fact you could only role play a killer or nothing. This is EXACTLY the sort of role playing he was talking about, people who want to "play house" along with people who want to be artists and create real art or books, people who just want to "skip through the daisies" but our society is so screwed up that wanting to role play relationships (and that includes sex) makes you somehow immature or perverted but wanting to cut bits off other players to eat is completely normal? REALLY????

 

Since when does role play require game mechanics?

 

Your absolutely right, which is why the devs should stop developing this game and release a chat program today where everyone can freely role play without the burden of game mechanics

 

I appreciate the sentiment, but this ain't 1980. Role playing is necessarily less about imagination now because games are facilitating roleplaying between people who don't know each other and can't see each others faces or (usually) hear their voices. Where with PnP type experiences the players can build an entire world between themselves, online games require a provided sandbox and rule set to keep the experience synchronous for 8,000 people instead of just eight. It's a whole different ballgame.

 

me thinks you guys are missing the point. As stated.. the game provides a rule set. What it does NOT do is limit player interaction. And really, would you WANT the game to limit your interaction? Cause if you added some of the stuff people seem to be requesting you're effectively limiting yourself to what the Devs manage to put in. Where as RP interactions between players without a governing mechanic if limited only by imagination.

If someone feels they can't RP sex cause they can't see it well.. that's not the game's fault. If you are allowed to see it then you're limited by what you can see. Well that obviously won't be enough so players will want more and more with every EP1.. a great big expensive distraction that was never truly needed in the first place.

 

I'm not sure anyone did really. "The game should have sex because real life has sex," sounds pretty silly, hm?

 

The irony of this entire situation is that those in favour who are deriding those against for being overly moralistic are themselves passing a moral judgement.

 

I guess I live a sheltered life. Apparently there are people who enjoy urinating and defecating as much as sex.... or killing people.... ?

 

Wouldn't know about that but again I don't think that was the point they were trying to make. People use realism as an excuse for wanting sex scenes but have no interest in functioning toilets. Double standard. If that's their reason for wanting sex then by that logic they should want the other things too but you don't see anyone asking for it. Realism in of itself is not a strong argument. Especially when it is used selectively only for the things you want.

 

I don't think realism is the point. I think enjoyment is.

 

What the good baron said above.

While I do believe that anyone could role play nearly anything, the game needs to be mindful of its *intended* audience. I think the intended audience for SOTA is largely a group of medieval role players and gamers interested in the kind of quests that LB's past games were known for - and importantly - introducing that to the next generation(s). The game needs to be mindful of not coding and enabling things on a mass basis that would change the purpose, dynamic, and that audience of the game I believe. It needs to avoid what someone described Second Life's brand becoming above.

 

Why would any responsible parent buy a game where people are pushing for cannibalism and trophies and reagents made out of human bodies?

Once again, that gains a game an R18+ rating (unless they consider it gratuitous in which case its likely to get an RC)
where as sex only gains an MA15+

For the third time, Dragon age and Mass effect are both rated MA15+ where as the Last of us (NO SEX) is rated R18+

 

@Sir Asgard

Was that a question for me sir? I do not support those features and did not indicate such in my comments that were quoted.