Banning/Permissions Control List for Owners/Co-Owners

We should just paint bright red stars on everything, call it a communist autonomous collective, sit back, never work and live off the state's largesse until everything crumbles into the sea, sinks into the earth, and disappears into the ether. That would be the consequence of restricting a POT owner's right to ban.

So the stark choices are:

1) be communist/socialist and die OR
2) have real property rights and prosper

 

Amen!

 

And for what purpose would anyone want or need to go to any of those "unique" towns after they've pissed people off enough to get banned? Honorable intentions? Then they won't be being so obnoxious as to get banned.

If the towns are so unique and/or desirable and/or such a pleasant experience, why get themselves banned?

What is it about those towns that makes them so desirable, what game content, that someone absolutely must have permission to go there even if they've made themselves so totally unwelcome as to get banned? For what?

If someone likes those towns so much and wants to go there, they won't be getting themselves banned in the first place. If someone has made themselves such an intolerable nuisance, and annoyed the owner to the point they got banned, why should they still have the right to go there?

And why in the world would someone even want to go where they are obviously no longer wanted because of their actions? To get even by being disruptive some more? /boggle

If someone truly likes the towns, and the people there, and the experience there is pleasant enough to make them want to go back, then they can abide by the rules set up by the owner and pay the consequences if they choose to ignore them. Someone who feels that way about the town isn't likely to be getting themselves banned in the first place.

There is currently going to be no game content there aside from that created by the "owner." Zero content. And that "owner" will have paid a bloody arm and leg for the experience of "owning" their own town. No idiot child should have the right to ruin that for them with no recourse for the owner nor to be able to dictate what they can and can't do with it. No one should ever have the right to say "haha, I don't care how may thousands of dollars you paid for this...it's worthless because I can come in anytime I want and dance naked on your stage during your plays whether you like it or not and there's nothing you can do about it....more the fool, you"

I highly doubt that Port will have a system that allows the kind of griefing that would ensue by denying controls to the owners that some people here are lobbying for with specious arguments and (in my mind) questionable intentions. After all, these guys have first hand experience of human nature on the internet from early UO and are far more aware than most of the ramifications of certain decisions.

 

I dont know if you are really a girl or a guy, but I want to hug you!

 

Unlike disallowing POT bans, hugging someone of the same sex will not cause a kitten to die.

After you guys decipher that triple negative, just breathe and let it sink in.

 

She is definitely female, and has the sword arm and temperment to prove it!

(lol, we're old friends)

 

+ 1 for real female gamers!

 

That assume they did something wrong in the first place.

 

I am sure they will be abused in this way, but since we are talking about PoTs which would not be on the map without generous donation of its owners in the first place, I do not mind it much. PoTs are bit of extra to the game, not something at its core, you can play the game without visiting any of them. And good PoTs will not abuse bans.

 

I guess in this case you could page a gm, and have him review your case, the burden would be on you, not the player town owner.

 

I would never place my deed at a lot someone else can kick me off in a game with limited Lot availability.
Both invested money to the game.
Sorry to say this, but for me this is the same as rental system.
There must be protections or ar least 3 or 4 steps until i can get banned from my lot.
there have to be the same amount of available lots ( excluding POT lots) as the total of purchased lots.

 

I agree, being banned from your own lot would be a problem. I do not ever really see that happening though. I can see them kicking you from your lot, and giving the lot to some one else. If you were ever banned from your lot I would page a gm and file a complaint.

 

Right and wrong are subjective terms and should be decided by the owner where that particular paid-for town-owner experience is concerned. For whatever reason a person has made themselves unwelcome and unwanted in a town owned by someone who paid for that right, the decision should still rest with the owner.

Why would the "unwanted" person even want to go there any more anyway? I know I sure wouldn't, regardless of the reason for the ban. I sure as hell wouldn't be trying to get back in there somehow. lol.

If some town owner decides that everyone must wear purple and anyone not wearing purple will be banned, and then bans me for not wearing purple, I think I'd decide that there's nothing there for me anyway. Bottom line is, it's his or hers. They paid for the right to require all visitors to wear purple, and regardless of how I feel about being required to wear purple (whether I think it's right or wrong), it's irrelevant and it will have no effect on my game if I never go there. On the other hand, (if I'm feeling especially roleplayish that day, not a word, I know), I might contact the owner and explain that I look absolutely hideous in purple and therefore I don't own anything purple. Maybe he/she could give me a purple loaner to wear for the duration of my stay, etc......

Silly example, I know, but it's the principle I'm trying to get across.

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Edit: In the case of someone having a lot in a POT, I'm pretty sure they said somewhere that you can be evicted (with appropriate protections in place for the evicted person), but I don't remember if banning was addressed.

 

Just a point of clarification here. These are the exact words form the POT purchase page.

 

So aside from banning no one has any other features they would like to add or remove?

 

Hey! i did

 

I would like to try to get a list of all the player town owners together and have a meeting with them if possible, I would suggest that we then have a deep dive or some kind of discussion with the devs about this, and try to explain all of our points of view. Its hard for me, and I assume others to type out our thoughts and am way better with real conversation.

 

Does anyone know if the total of
Deeds that Portalarium will sale equals the total of ingame available Lots excluding POT Lots?
This is what my concern is based on.

I think no player should be forced to choose. a POT Lot, that someone else has control over.




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Hopefully some one will chime in on this

 

They said the number of lots in the game will equal the addon-on store deeds + pledge deeds + 30-50%. I do not recall mention of the main question you have about the POTs in the ratio.