Bring back murderers!

Discussion in 'PvP Gameplay' started by Waxillium, Nov 19, 2015.

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  1. Waxillium

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    If someone not flagged PvP attacks and kills someone flagged PvP in a Guard controlled or Oracle observed location they should get a murderer count. Maybe all the time?

    After X murder counts they are flagged PvP without the option of having the protection of the Oracle until;

    A week of time passes?

    They complete some sort of virtue quests?

    As it stands, people who are flagged right now are viewed as evil by default since you can attack them without penalty. From an RP and immersion standpoint being flagged PvP should not always mean someone is by default evil and not worth caring about. It currently comes across as their deaths being meaningless and their lives worthless.

    I totally support PvP means PvP and you should expect what you get when you flag. I'd just hope more meaning is added to the fights, deaths and interactions.

    I'd love to see the tag "murderer" instead of "PvP" if your actions are truely evil.
     
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    Im All For This !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Agreed. There should be some social consequence to attacking another player unprovoked.
     
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    Ok so is a PvP player attacks another player "unprovoked" do they face any consequences? Yeah I know they have to be flagged but . . . .

    I do agree that someone who initiate a Fight, just because they want to attack a PvP tagged players should suffer much more than just being able to leave the zone to unflagg, this idea is a reach.

    Simply make the tag stick for 24 hours then have to take a trip to the oracle - that would make it have some value. As it stands now it isn't much of a challenge :-(
     
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    into the past! Could do it 15 years ago.

    I don't pretend to have the solutions for all of this but there should be an interesting consequence for non flagged Avatars attacking flagged Avatars.
     
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    Good idea.
     
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    Yes. Simply flagging for PVP should not be treated as an inherently aggressive act.
     
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    +1 may this idea go viral and force implementation.
     
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    I wanna be Murderer !!!

    Plz Report Me !
     
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    Missing the reds, +1!
     
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    24hr flag if you flag voluntarily. To prevent flag/ambush/flee/un-flag situations. I'm fine with healers unflagging when leaving the scene, but a trip to the oracle to un-flag wouldn't kill 'em. (maybe):p

    Much longer flag if your designated a Murderer. 5-7 days'ish. Kill, I dunno, 5 'innocents' and you're a Murderer and it designates somehow next to your open PvP flag by your name. A lil skull or somethin. To show you're not just a PvP'er but a killer.

    Regular PvP'ers and PK'ers shouldn't care, they're gonna be flagged PvP regardless. If they have a little skull next to the PvP tag they can wear it as a badge of honor if they wanted.
     
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    And will countless murders just sit at A bank and "work off murder counts" be implemented too?
     
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    Not sure. I assume the true murderes would go on being bada$$ in the open while the griefers might hide and wait out the murder count.

    Edit: That or go SPO and work on gathering.
     
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    With a reputation system, I have many friends who will come back play :)
     
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    For some reason when I saw your title, I thought of my old bard enticing architects to kill over and over for their black sandles in UO, lol. :)
     
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    Would it be accurate to label ''Murderer'' when Avatars are supposed to be Immortal?
     
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    Ethics of SotA 101.

    Not sure really. A more appropriate title would be "Avatar Farmer" since you mostly get gold for killing people.

    Don't go AFK or the AFs will get you!
     
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    Even changing the tag from PvP to PK would be a welcome change.

    Need to give evil back its pride.

    I'm a virtuous player myself but I get that opposites must exist in tension in order to create good intentional in game drama.
     
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