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  1. rbest68

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    looking for help with my computer. i have the HP6005 work station with:
    Type Business Desktops & Workstation
    Form Factor Slim/Small form factor
    Usage Business Processor AMD Athlon II X2 B22 2.8GHzProcessor
    64 bit Dual Core Processor
    Memory 8GB DDR3
    Graphic card radeon 4400 hd
    Storage 1TB
    Optical Drive DVDRW
    Operating System Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit
    CPU Type Athlon II X2CPU SpeedB22 (2.80 GHz)
    Memory Capacity 8 GB DDR3
    Hard Drive HDD1 TB

    im looking for help to replace the graphic card to something that will run Shroud.
    right now the game is very choppy for me, as you can imagine.
    any and all help is welcome.
     
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    What board/ power supply do you have? I would recommend Nvidia GTX 750Ti. Low power consumption, inexpensive and runs this game on fantastic setting at near 45 FPS
     
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    Being a small form factor case, your options will be a little more limited.

    Head over to Amazon and check the GTX 970 Mini, you may wish to check the compatibility as best as you can with your 6005's PCI-E bus and xTX form.
     
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    Thanks for info and link
    the power supply is 240 watt ( I know, I know )
     
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    My opinion, and it wont be popular. Build a new PC with a full sized case. You can save the RAM, hard drive, DVD, etc. Just ensure compatibility.

    Spend about $500 you can get a really nice PC, for $300 one that would be a significant improvement.

    If nothing else buy a part every so often starting with the case, power supply, and items that won't age poorly like a GPU.
    Buy the CPU and GPU last. With a custom built PC you can do major upgrades when needed.
     
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    And I'd up your memory a bit if you have room.
     
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    *whistles* that's gonna constrain your card QUITE a bit.

    Also, what price range are you? I'm kinda on the side of Greyfox about upgrading to a larger size. I know that there may be a lot of space constraints which is why you may have gone with the small form factor, but it does mean you have to make sure any GPU you want will actually fit the board/case you have.

    Also, here are some real world numbers for various graphics cards (if any of these games draw your interest as well).
    http://www.gamersnexus.net/features/game-bench
     
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    This would be my first choice.

    But if money is an issue or just need a quick fix upgrade read below. :)

    Aye, first thing would to be upgrade the power supply then depending on your budget, you can get the card of your choosing, just make sure it's a smaller card because you probably won't be able to fit any of the larger ones in your box. Here's a site to help you with prices to get your best deal. https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
    And of course another benchmark link. http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
    There are some smaller 750TI's, 960, and 970's out there. For Shroud any of those will do just great. I think the 750TI around $100-$110 depending on the day, lol. :) The others are in the $200-$350 price range. In your machine I'd just go with the cheaper one. If I were rebuilding, I would go with the 960 or 970.

    And yes
     
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    Simply put, get a different PC to run SotA. That HP was never meant to do anything remotely close to what you asking it to do. Even if you were to shoehorn a modern graphics card in there somehow, that small form factor will not like the heat the new card puts out. Coupled with the anemic power supply, I would stick to all things 2D.
     
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    750 TI actually runs relatively well in a small area (i.e. doesn't generate too much heat). Not sure on some of the newer cards (960/970) but I'd definitely say the very first step is to know budget range. If the budget is 980 - Titan Z range, then rebuild computer and put in a 960/970. If budget range is under 960 prices, then consider 750 TI and new PSU with more memory (if possible).
     
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    This small?
    3.95 x 13.30 x 14.90 in


    It's basically a roomy laptop. They don't even recommend it operate in direct sunlight.
     
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    *whistles* yeah that is tight. Possible to fit something like this 750 TI but I agree I wouldn't want to. It might require removing fan to fit there and though card runs cool (comparatively speaking) there just isn't much of any breathing room at all.
     
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    I would agree that would be the best you could do.

    But, considering the min. specs for SotA is a NVIDIA 8800 GT that 730 won't cut it:
    http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GT-8800-vs-GeForce-GT-730
     
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    I would take your existing CPU, RAM, Hard Drive

    And add them to:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128565
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127921
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182295

    For ~$230, you'll have something you can play SotA with and then you still have room to upgrade CPU & RAM down the line when you want.

    Dropping any money into that small form factor HP is a waste, IMO.
     
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    Good choice of parts, but I would caution against grabbing a refurbished GPU. Just a personal bias against using something that was broken for someone else. Also, it only saves about $30.
     
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    I would agree his best long term bet is to get a whole new system. But if a $60 card can hold him over until he can afford one, it might be worth considering, especially if he can find it for cheaper / on sale somewhere:
    http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-4450-vs-GeForce-GT-730

    But yes, despite those gains, he would still be under the recommended minimum. He's likely playing with all graphic options turned off and on low res just to even have any barely acceptable experience as it is.
     
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    The 730 isn't going fix the "very choppy" game play as desired by the OP.
     
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    thank you all very much for all this info. it looks like I have a lot of homework to do now!!
    so, it seem the best so far would be to just pop out the few good things in this computer and pop into an upgradeable mother board in a full size case.
    then everything can just grow from there..... as I find better parts and moneys!!
     
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