Can someone confirm this 100% Its about attunment

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  1. Drocis the Devious

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    Isn't that what I said?
     
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    Curt clarified it for me.
     
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    Look everyone, all you need to do is press CTRL+V and just verify what it's doing to your own stats.

    The + to your attunement is applied to you and makes that school stronger (also makes you more resistant to the magic from that school). The - (negative) for the opposing school is also applied to you and makes you weaker in that school (and less resistant to magic from that school).
     
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    Ok people I am sorry that you have players like this who are just plain reading into something and leading players to believe in something that is just plain NOT true.

    If you have +75 Attunement that is ALL you have +75, the attunement of your target does NOT affect your attunement in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM.

    I may affect how affective you are against them since it actually LOWERS the targets effective defenses but again has NOTHING to do with YOUR Attunement.

    NOTHING, sorry, if you are mislead by this.

    Again reading into or misinterpreting things are always out there but don't be mislead . . . .
     
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    I don't understand how their attunement has 'NOTHING' to do with mine, if theirs affects their defenses based on my attunement?

    I do understand the other part, where I have high Death attunement, my Life healing spell heals me LESS? And a party members Life healing spell will also heal me less? IF any of this is incorrect, do correct me as I do not like misinformation as well. And I like to know the right rules to this game :p
     
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    is chaos bolt affected by attunements other than chaos attunement?
     
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    And a high Death attunement will hurt a high Life attunement avatar with Death Touch more than nonLife attunement, because of our both differing attunements, right?
     
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    I'm sorry, too confusing for me, I'm attuning you guys out. :)
     
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    Yes

    OK again I am NOT saying your Spell Affects, Opponents Spell Affects, Party member Spell affects are NOT affected by you Attunement, TH OP WAS DOES IT AFFECT YOUR ATTUNENEMT - THE ANSWER IS NO IT DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR ATTUENEMENT.

    If you are DEATH ATTUNED ((YOU ARE DEATH ATTUNED)) - Your Death spells are more effective and Life Spells you use are less affective and if Life is used on you technically they too should be less effective . BUT YOUR ATTUENEMENT IS NOT CHANGED ONE SINGLE BIT.

    Again your affectiviness for AND against are affected but NOT the BASE ATTUNEMENT
     
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    lol

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    Edit: nice edit weins lol
     
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    Wow, I can't believe the level of confusion about this.
     
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    It's only 2 pages :D I do get it tho, the weird little things I was wondering about anyway :)
     
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    So, a mob death draining me (let's say a ghost), he would drain me less because of my positive death attunement? Yes or no please :)
     
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    Yes, (in theory) assuming that attunement is working correctly.
     
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    I can't either. Chris has posted many times how this works and doesn't work. All of my posts are consistent with what Chris has described.

    I think there are two problems:

    1. Attunement may not be working as designed.
    2. It's very difficult to know what it's actually doing. There are almost no UI indicators that explain what it's doing (I know there are some, but not for every spell).


    @Chris
     
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    This would be correct if the gain in damage was equal to the gain in resistance:
    Ex: +1 X attunment gives +0.5% dmg and +0.5% resist. So having 50 X attunment would give +25% dmg and 25% resist. This also mean you get -25 Y Attunment, with a -12.5% dmg and -12.5% resist.

    Now if X cast an spell on Y, this would result in 25% + 12.5% bonus damage (37.5%, which is equal to 75 X attunment)... UNLESS the bonus to resist is not the same as the bonus to damage (was not able to find this information). So if 1 attunment gives +0.5% dmg but only +0.25% resist... this would be a lot different! but overall, its back to the same thing.

    Your -Attunment reduce your resist in the opposite tree
     
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    Just ran a quick test, in a duel:

    Player1 has +1 Air Attunement
    Player 2 has -34.5 Air Attunement
    Using Discharge Level 30 (5-15 dmg)
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    [3/22/2016 10:36:59 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 17 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:37:06 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 8 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:37:14 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 13 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:37:22 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 15 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:37:29 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 14 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:37:37 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 21 points of critical damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:37:44 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 28 points of critical damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:37:51 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 11 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:37:59 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 10 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:38:06 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 16 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:38:14 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 26 points of critical damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:38:22 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 15 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:38:38 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 26 points of critical damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:38:45 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 30 points of critical damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:38:53 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 12 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:39:04 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 40 points of critical damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:39:17 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 19 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:39:24 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 20 points of damage from Discharge.

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    Next test
    Player1 has +1 Air Attunement
    Player 2 has -24.5 Air Attunement (less attunement than first test, damage numbers should be lower/less, if the current hypothesis is true and things are working as intended)
    Using Discharge Level 30 (5-15 dmg)
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    [3/22/2016 10:40:19 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 11 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:40:26 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 20 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:40:34 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 19 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:40:41 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 12 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:40:48 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 14 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:40:56 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 14 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:41:03 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 15 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:41:10 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 16 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:41:17 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 18 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:41:25 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 14 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:41:32 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 11 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:41:39 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 18 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:41:47 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 9 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:41:56 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 18 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:42:04 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 16 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:42:12 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 14 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:42:19 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 10 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:42:27 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 21 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:42:34 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 20 points of damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:42:41 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 27 points of critical damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:42:54 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 37 points of critical damage from Discharge.
    [3/22/2016 10:43:07 AM] Player1 attacks Player2 and hits, dealing 16 points of damage from Discharge.

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    Interpret as you wish. And yes, I'm quite aware that ~20 samples may not be enough, but by all means, test away and post your own results. ;)
     
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    In pvp situations. Plain cut. With my 100 death attunement vs his 100 Life attunement death spells do a lot more damage to the player. My 100 death attunement vs his 25 life attunement I do less damage. My 100 death attunement his 0 life 50 death attunement I do a lot less damage.
     
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    Any chance you have any combat logs you'd be willing to post (or links to them) so we could figure out how much damage, exactly?
     
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