R33: Where to buy Raffle deed?

Hello,

Unfortunately I couldn't spend 300$ for a pledge to get a home in game so I am quite excited for the raffle! Any one know how much the Place anywhere raffle lot deed will cost and from which npc it can be purchased?

Thanks again, my apologies if I am jumping the gun and this information will be posted tomorrow, I thoroughly read the R33 instructions and didn't see a note about it.

*Crossing Fingers*

Thank you.

 

in another post somewhere someone said they would be from the real estate agent above banks in owls and such.

be funny if they sold out almost instantly tho hope its not a static number of tickets

 

The number of tickets should be endless. The number of deeds to be raffled is static of course. So chances to get a deed in the end lowers with every ticket sold. Buying multibple tickets would raise your chances to get one (or probably more, depending on the number of tickets you buy).

 

You can find them at the real estate, and home deco merchants, and they are above most banks.,

 

Thanks guys, too bad its not 1 per player ;(

 

At least for the first drawing, thing could change for the later round. It's a once a month thing, so they will have time to change.

 

Question... I know you are allowed to purchase multiple tickets, (not a fan of that, but it is what it is), but I assume with purchasing multiple tickets, you are still only entitled to one deed per drawing a month?

 

It is like a raffle, so each ticket you buy might be drawn as a possible winner. But Chris said in the telethon the odds you would win more than one are extremely low.

 

Except each ticket has equal odds. There are only 645 lots up for grabs and there are millionaires who can literally buy 100 tickets to your one.

Statistically the odds are high those people will win multiple lots at once and you will get nothing. That is the system as designed.

 

Odds to win just one could already be extremely low...

 

Thank you Selene for your reply. So a purely hypothetical, and "extreeeemely" unlikely scenario would be purchasing 10 tickets, and winning 10 lot deeds in that monthly drawing? (I know....if I were that lucky I would be hitting up the nearest Casino right now ).

Tracker

 

Not sure where to buy raffle/lottery tickets. But I'm selling taxable row and village lot deeds here: https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/wts-village-and-row-lot-deeds.57075/

If you can't afford a bundle, think about buying from a player.

 

If this millionaire were to put in 100 tickets and only got 5 deeds from it. That would be 1 mil GP taken out of the circulation since the deed only work once. Again Chris said in telethon that if this doesn't work well, they can change it to different approach.

 

Exactly. That was my concern with allowing multiple ticket purchases. I knew under this system that allowing multiple tickets increased your odds of winning a deed, I wasn't aware though that multiple deeds could also be won. So the way my luck runs, I'm better off buying one ticket, dancing on a bed of four leaf clovers, while I rub the fur off my lucky rabbits foot.

(and I do apologize for high-jacking this thread....carry on back on topic)

Tracker

 

There are likely multiple people that will be buying 100 tickets each... I'm still geeking out about how a person can have 1M gold though... I busted my ass grinding and leveling during R32 and I have enough gold saved to buy 1 ticket.

 

Except they proved they were able to make 1 million gold in less a month by having existing lot deeds and vendors. Eating up more of the real estate market will only allow them to make even more gold next month and win the next raffle, and the next one.

They're fully aware of how this system benefits the rich and even said that out loud in the telethon as well. They're prioritizing a gold sink over a fair land rush. I do not expect this to change or be fixed. If you don't have property now, I guess you can't expect a fair opportunity to get property. We're intentionally creating a system for one rich guild (that treats the game as a gold farming operation) to own all the land.

Vendors in key locations have made a huge difference. It was a coordinated effort by one guild to grab those spots, gather all the gold, etc. They did this specifically so they can buy all the future lot deeds and dominate even more. The devs are aware and are now catering to that further.

 

I'm sure this debate will continue forever. But I'll try to continue a little here, as my opinion has changed to agree with you somewhat.

Warren Buffet probably isn't playing the lottery in real life even though he could potentially have better odds of winning than just about anyone. This is because Warren Buffet doesn't want "good odds" he wants "good investments". He's not trying to lose all his wealth like he's betting at a casino.

However, the distinction between a lottery and a raffle is becoming more clear to me. If it were a true lottery, it would be possible for no one to win. That would mean that the rich guy and the poor guy would have a very good chance of losing all their money without getting a house. But in a RAFFLE, that's not the case. Someone's going to win the raffle, and the likely winner will be the rich guy. This changes things in favor of the rich guy, and I have to agree that's not a good system.

@Chris, what you should do (imo) is make it so you run the "lottery" over and over again until all the lots are won. Like a series of rounds. The first round I might have 100 tickets, but the next round I have only 1. This prevents people from avoiding the risk of losing their money without getting housing. I think we need that level of risk to make this semi-fair. Yes people can still try to game it with multiple accounts, but after the first round it would be a lot more "fair" and the likelihood that someone buying multiple tickets would lose most of that gold would be pretty high if you designed it properly.

 

I decided long ago that I didnt want any kind of taxable lot especially after recent changes. I simply dont want to trouble of having to keep that tax up. I have enough gold for a lot of tickets and maybe I buy one ticket for giggles but Im really not interested in that tax. Things like that make me feel like Im working a second job and paying a second mortgage.

I thought this lotto system would be one ticket per person which would be fair for everyone. If its not, this is a really bad design for casual players to get housing.

 

What bothers me is that we're willing to permanently ruin the reputation of the game and the permanent land rush because we don't have gold sinks, when I've been calling for other/better gold sinks for ages.

We were persistent before putting thought into the economy, when gold sinks and economy polish really absolutely should have been a blocker for final wipe.

Right now we have the attitude of "let's see what happens (even if intellectually we know the current approach is broken) and we can fix it later". The land rush really can't be fixed later. We've had 3 years to plan for the persistent economy and we don't have gold sinks yet. Does this concern anyone else for how well the economy ultimately will be planned out? We're already persistent.

 

What I am curious about is: will you be able to pay tickets with COTOs?
That opens the door to tickets bought with real money vs. with effort put in game to make the gold.

Odds (tickets) bought with gold should mean the person is active and, in any case, someone that is already capable of paying the taxes, otherwise they woudn't have made the money to buy the tickets in the first place.

Land rush is over, but raffles will be the next fun episode in SotA history.