Rage - DPS nerfed over 50%

i don't have any issues or see significant changes to my combat or damage.

 

Some players are trying to repro the issue. Seems like not happening 100% of the times, but those (first page posts) number reports are showing something really weird . In r49 we were getting like 8/10 crit hits from back.

 

Yep - i cannot speak about highend Bosses like Torq, so maybe there is something wrong for Crits or so. Maybe my crits do less damage, but my overall performance fighting is same as before.
Was just fighting a bunch of Elves in Crag FH with Level 79/81 with Spirituality Buff. I have to take care as ever, but i can manage them pretty good.

 

But I feel like I am a 25%ER and I felt it.

 

I am seeing almost no crits and I can do a direct shot to a mage in The Rise from behind and have yet to get a back shot. I am averaging about 190 damage on a back shot. I was averaging 400 to 600 damage before.

 

So, i fought the 2 trolls at the "Pass" at Sawtooth Thicket.
First time im killed them. 1st killed me, but died from DoT and was dead when i ressurect, 2nd killed me once, but then i killed him.
Before i allways had bad luck jumping or just did something wrong, today i made it, this is not because of R50, or a buff or new equip or higher level or higher skills, i fought them with the same skills, same gear, at the same level etc. but just have more practice and become better.
If Damage or Crits were massively nerfed i sure weren't able today to do it as they are hard for me to kill and i sure need all my damage and crits.

I dont want to say there isn't something wrong, just want to say, for me it's fine and my crits from behind and all that worked i guess, otherwise i wouldn't have killed them.

 

Just tried to solo Vrul and after 10ish minutes I mis-timed a jump and he knocked me down and killed me. I had gotten him to about 3k health. Prior to R50 I could kill him in about 5 minutes. Im AL 82.

It feels like a big step back for me but I get it, bosses should be tough.

Update: Killed Vrul in about 8 mins. Optimized my combat bar and switched from dual wielding 1H swords to a 2 hander. If they fix crits from behind then I should be able to reduce this time.

 

@Chris are there any plan to fix the other more than 50% of them?
After new release there are a good number of unbeatable players going around in full warding gear and polearm.

This means: Full resistant character to a magic school, movement cc, knockback, knockdown, root, 100%+ critical damage bonus (without firefly), unavoidable puncture, dot, unblockable skills, healing modifier skills, extended range and 25% poison for each 1h weapon.

Spoiler: R50 fight vs spearman Chatlog spoiler , replaced the name of player to avoid flaming

[1/26/2018 2:00:51 AM] Playername attacks Antrax Artek and hits, dealing 4 points of critical damage from Ignite Weapon.
[1/26/2018 2:00:51 AM] Playername attacks Antrax Artek and hits, dealing 16 points of damage.
[1/26/2018 2:00:51 AM] Playername attacks Antrax Artek and hits, dealing 360 points of critical damage from Leg Sweep.
[1/26/2018 2:00:52 AM] Playername attacks Antrax Artek and hits, dealing 12 points of damage from Puncture.
[1/26/2018 2:00:52 AM] Playername attacks Antrax Artek and hits, dealing 63 points of damage from Puncture.
[1/26/2018 2:00:53 AM] Antrax Artek utters the phrase Reno.
[1/26/2018 2:00:53 AM] Playername attacks Antrax Artek and is parried, dealing no damage from Ignite Weapon.
[1/26/2018 2:00:53 AM] Antrax Artek utters the phrase Reno.
[1/26/2018 2:00:54 AM] Antrax Artek is healed for 59 points of health.
[1/26/2018 2:00:54 AM] Playername attacks Antrax Artek and hits, dealing 120 points of critical damage from Skewer.
[1/26/2018 2:00:54 AM] Antrax Artek has been slain by Playername's Skewer!

I was with over 60% resist, 70% avoid, 154 str 84 dex and 118 int, all defensive cds activated.

PS: Looking deeply at my chatlogs i noticed now glancing blows affect magic, i seen i did 7 damage from lighting glancing blow on a player.

 

Chris ...

I think they are having issues with exploiting the ability to jump behind torc'dawl on his long animations. This is likely an effect due to the decoupled positioning from the Scene Master. This makes it impossible to "spin" the dragons in order to maintain back attacks. This also makes Torc'Dawl appear to be facing one direction when in reality he is facing the player. I tested crits prior to the change and they are working fine. The only thing that has changed is how fast NPC's react to positioning so Exploiting the latency is no longer a thing.

 

again ... welcome to the new norm ? not everything is supposed to be soloable. NPC positions have been decoupled so group content might actually require a group. I dont' see how this is a bad thing at all ...

 

I didn't say it was a bad thing, I said "bosses should be tough".

 

Cryo, check second page screenshot by bigta1982, back hits from an static target, not exploiting any boss mechanic. In r49 he was getting 8-9/10 crit hits, the difference is huge, a bug? who knows, but we can't say thats "normal".

 

Rada... NPC's turn faster than your client is rendering now. So for instance ... Torc'dawl has a really long animation that allows you to get behind him. Now since NPC movement is no longer coupled to Scene masters, NPC's turn faster than your client is rendering.

 

That static target Rada is talking about is a training dummy. He doesn't turn faster then anything.

 

And my back shots are done on a 6.5 second stunned target generally, its stationary, ive blinked behind it. Say with rapid fire i will only get one crit or maybe 2 from 8...
Heres some logs with back shots against the training dummy..

Before this release i was getting maybe 5 or so critical's at least, anything up to and over 100 a piece, usually 60-80 though

Spoiler: traing dummy

[1/26/2018 3:25:12 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 18 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:25:12 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 14 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:25:12 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 18 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:25:12 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 61 points of critical damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:25:12 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 13 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:25:13 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 16 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:25:13 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 14 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:25:13 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 33 points of critical damage from Rapid Fire.

[1/26/2018 3:26:21 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 15 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:26:21 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 13 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:26:21 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 13 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:26:21 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 15 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:26:21 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 16 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:26:22 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 15 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:26:22 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 23 points of critical damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:26:22 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 57 points of critical damage from Rapid Fire.

[1/26/2018 3:26:35 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 15 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:26:35 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 16 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:26:35 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 58 points of critical damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:26:35 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 13 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:26:35 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 12 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:26:36 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 16 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:26:36 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 19 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:26:36 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 18 points of damage from Rapid Fire.

[1/26/2018 3:27:35 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 15 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:27:35 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 20 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:27:35 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 14 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:27:35 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 18 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:27:35 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 19 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:27:36 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 14 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:27:36 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 60 points of critical damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:27:36 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 56 points of critical damage from Rapid Fire.

[1/26/2018 3:27:41 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 19 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:27:41 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 16 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:27:41 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 19 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:27:42 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 14 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:27:42 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 13 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:27:42 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 15 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:27:42 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 17 points of damage from Rapid Fire.
[1/26/2018 3:27:43 AM] Bow Vale attacks Practice Dummy and hits, dealing 13 points of damage from Rapid Fire.

 

My screen shot was behind and at elevation. I am getting about the same experience @Bow Vale

 

This may be slightly "off topic" but there is a lingering question for me. When will mobs ever get a nerf? To clarify...I mean stuff like watching Torc toss his pebbles and no matter what you do it hits you. I mean seriously.. you can see him prepare the pitch.. and make a fast move to avoid but no matter what you do. you get slammed. Then of course we have mages that can target you through walls... and or shoot heat seeking junk at you that just never misses.. I could go on an on.. but I'm sure most of us know what I'm talking about. Clearly, mobs have superior trainers.

 

You can teleport away so he misses.

This has been happening forever.