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  1. Barugon

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    What's the reward (other than experience)?
     
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    8-12 minutes to get 9m combat exp seems like enough of a reward to me, the 48 minutes left on their hour can be spent doing many other things.
     
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    Don't worry, Barugon. Chris'll make sure you and I never get there. ;)
     
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    im using the extra time to do things like Planting and other things i dont normally do :)
     
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    Probably.
     
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    Oh welcome back
     
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    And people are constantly complaining about archery.
     
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    Don't let people lie to you, it doesn't take 8-12 min, that was many months a go, it takes at least 25+ to do spindle now.
     
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    Many months ago it was about 5 minutes
     
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    Let's start some riots to nerf fire mages :D
     
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    They just got hit by one, their AoEs (RoF, Fireball) won't deal crits anymore
     
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    Yeah, they already got a big fat one.
     
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    We're off to a good start then.
    Next they need to increase the tick time for fire DOT and make Immolation wear gear continuously because fire damages stuff.
    Oh, and don't forget to add self damage for fire spells while wearing heavy chest armor because of heat.

    I never played as a fire mage but I'll feel better if they get nerfed very, very, very hard.

    Nope, just kidding, I kind of hope they made other trees better instead of bringing all the good stuff down.
     
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    I'm really tired of worrying about how I'm going to get slapped down each release.
     
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    Have you tried the changes? Are you sure of the impact this change will have on you?

    Also, do you know that you can recast Air shield, even mid combat using an alternate deck? I truly think this change simply makes combat a little less straightforward and especially good to make higher scenes more challenging. Have you seen my two videos? With an Air Shield with a transfer rate of 0.8 I just sit in mobs face as if they didn't exist 95% of the time, so I think having to be wary of this being dispelled is more than fair.
     
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    Honestly I'm reading all of this and you know what, most these changes could make a lot of sense (except the Heavy chest one because it's a magical fire), but adding a durability debuff to Immolation, and maybe slowing down fire tick damage a little could be just fine!

    And you know what? Most fire mages I know think these are fine as well!
     
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    Yeah.

    I'ma hop on QA tonight and see if I can't find a way to make a SoA-less leather armor build that doesn't result in bosses killing me in two hits. At least we know light armor is crap and unlikely to get nerfed until everything has been smashed down to the point it's actually the best option...
     
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    Here's what's @Barugon is referring to (in Chris's twitter chat from this morning):
    1 - Blame List Rostov ?
    2 - Good BALANCE ?
    3 - Another blow to people who try to bot ?

    Regarding 1:
    'Cmon Chris.... YOU are the boss there.

    Regarding 2:
    "Good Balance" --- Sadly, that's laughable.
    There's a big difference between "Balance" and complete removal of a primary defense mechanism .
    I suspect that you'll lose more players than you'll "placate" with a change like this - which renders an entire template unworkable.

    Regarding 3:
    Botting ? I hear this from you a lot, but I can't visualize how this botting might take place. If you know of instances where someone is "botting" and this "botting" is made possible by Shield of Air I'm sure we'd all like to hear a few more details from your end. Personally, (and respectfully) I have serious doubts about this possibility.

    Bottom line: I urge you to rethink this huge change, how many avatars it will effect vs whoever is whining in your ear about the power of SoA.
     
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    https://twitter.com/catnipgames/status/1381975129262014472?s=19

    "Probably adding it to daemons, a few high level lich, and skeleton mage types."

    How much of this is gonna affect mid level players? For a mid-level player, you should not be fighting demons unless you are in a group, you should not be fighting High level liches unless you are in a group, and high level casters should be considered semi-boss type mobs for them, so they should be wary that their protective shield might wear off and they might need to use their armors dodge factor to stay alive while trying to recast their shield.

    Once again, you guys haven't even tried these changes, which might only affect the later waves of some control points, and high tier scenes (or bosses in lower tier scenes). Give them a try before once again crying for the death of archers...
     
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