Archery "adjustments"

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  1. Mishikal

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    This particular build really had little to do with gear, which was one of the nice things about it. The power came from the skills you raised, not the gear you wore. Better gear could help improve it somewhat, but it wasn't mandatory to have top end gear to do well with this build.
     
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    The air shield one? Chris broke down why they adjusted it and how on stream yesterday, and it basically came down to extreme stat contributions lowering the transfer ratio to the point where the cost became negligible.
     
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    Sure, from things like the +30/-10 dex blessing, the +5 dex blessing from devotionals, the +10 dex buff from food, the dex buff spell, and then having 160 in shield of air and 140 in the rest of the air tree so your attunement is high... I.e., not gear.
     
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    Yes balance the darn gear and not our skills if that is the issue to begin with.....
     
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    Yeah. It's very frustrating to keep getting kneecapped because other people are way better than I am. Somebody else gets ridiculous results due to the time and effort they've put in, and so I don't get to do today what I was barely able to do yesterday.

    (And I'm not complaining that other people are awesome while I'm not.)
     
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    Which one is that? I thought it was +20/-20.
     
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    But it wasn't. I'd just gotten my transfer ratio down to .5 by increasing my attunement combined with the buffs available in game. :/ No special gear outside of a necklace of cautious precision I'd gotten from a yellow bundle. And it isn't upgraded in any way.
     
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    South Midmaer way, it's +30 dex/-10 str.
     
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    Cora Cuz'avich said:
    Which one is that? I thought it was +20/-20.

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    South Midmaer way, it's +30 dex/-10 str.

    I say:
    then nerf that and not our skills
     
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    For the Air shield nerd, we are talking about a 40% nerf across the board for the DeX stat. This means it is way more noticeable at higher levels compared to low levels, because 40% of 16.7 is way smaller than 40% of 100, and we are only talking about the contribution from the DeX stat (which is mainly from gear, not from skills). This means the people who got hurt A LOT are the high end players.

    As for the ranged nerf, it is a 10% damage nerf on the shot, only on charged attacks, on the last tick. This does simply means that the max hit will be slightly lower, and should not be huge in impact. When I tried the build, a charged attack without crit would usually be around 160 to 240 damage, that means I would hit for about 144 to 216 now, not a huge deal, and not a deal breaker in most cases. To compensate for this, about 10 extra levels in the first innate and a few levels in draw strength and it should be already recovered, you will be back to where you were in no time. Those hit by this the most are those like Girlsname who had invested 150-160 levels in the first innate and around 130 in the other ones, that's where it is gonna be harder to recover following the nerf.
     
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    Whoops, I was thinking of the +20 Dodge/-20 DA.
     
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    *snicker*

    Air Shield Nerds.
     
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    Enchantments and masterworking can give you a significant boost to dexterity as well, and that stacks with everything else you mentioned. Air attunement above 100 is also much easier to get from gear than from skills.

    The philosophy of diminishing returns does seem to break down frequently in this game. More often than not people who stack to an extreme see massive payoffs, in opposition to the design goals the devs keep stating. A big culprit there is the damage threshold from enemy resistances and regeneration.
     
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    The only skill that was nerfed is shield of air, that's it? You ranged skills were left untouched...
     
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    That darn autocorrect... that is what I get for doing these on mobile lol.
     
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    My contribution to dex stat comes primarily from skills and buffs, not gear. ;)
     
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    THIS x 1000
     
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    The problem is that he's making a generalized adjustment to bring the outliers in without any thought to how it will impact the rest.
     
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    Same. I commonly use add-on/reward gear.
     
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    Did anyone test it yet?