Archery is held back by a lack of feathers as loot.

Right now the ceiling is the 2000gp price per 1000 arrows from NPCs

The base is approx $500 in purchased ingredients (coal, creosote and feathers).

Plus all of your harvested resources:
16.66 logs converted into timber and into 100 boards.

100 ore plus 1200 scrap metal to make 100 ingots and then 100 arrow heads. Or 400 ore!

So 17 wood harvests and 100 mine harvests (no meticulous collection at low levels) plus the death of 250 to 300 skeletons. (Or 400 mine harvests).

Somehow sell those arrows for 1500gp and you turn 1000gp profit for a solid days work!...

#freethefeathers

 

What kind of world is SotA where the rabbits have feathers...?

 

Do you ask this question from inside a pumpkin mask

Obsidian rabbits. The feathers are only on the belly where you cant see it.

 

Just waiting on the day we start finding "Feather Scrap" in the bowels of the local wolves.

"How are we creating complete feathers from this scrap again ?" "Don't ask, just keep applying the wax."

 

Dear Duke,

Why are you mucking about in the bowels of wolves? Please return to the trainer for advice on skinning wolves!

 

So, having just looked at the R23 screenshot gallery, it looks like big burning birds do drop a lot of feathers. Not sure you'd want to farm him though

 

No thanks! Backwards anyway. Only powerful and rich people who may not need cost savings could access feathers.

I know you're teasing!

Small birds or rabbits with feathers for now.

#freethefeathers

 

Yes, I keep killing chickens hoping they'll drop one some day Also on the lookout for ducks - for the darkstarr recipe, I think it was? Maybe his birds will drop them?

 

Has anyone in this thread actually made arrows to see what the cost (in gold for what can't be harvested) per arrow is when crafted?

Now, that can't really include any consideration for the cost in time to gather wood/ore mind you, that's a separate issue...
But the cost for feathers is quite small per arrow if my memory serves me correctly.
One "bundle" of feathers makes like 100 arrows if I'm not mistaken, does it not?

 

How many arrows can be made with your 400 ore?
Do you know? Have you crafted arrows?

 

400 pure ore makes 100 ingots that make 100 arrow heads that makes 10000 arrows

Made 10,000 so far this release

 

That seems high, but I'll take your word for it, for now...
But even if that ore count is accurate, the OP was about the cost of feathers - and I already mentioned that the cost of time to harvest was a separate issue...

You've made a lot of arrows (10k), so how many arrows does a 2gp "bundle" of feathers make?

 

Sounds quite like in Japan.
In the old days, monks were not allowed to eat animal meat, but were allowed to eat birds.
So they used the imaginations and said "Those long ears are like wings. Lets count bunnies like birds, 1羽, 2羽, 3羽..."

 

Feathers cost 4gp per bundle.

10 bundles + 1 board +1 arrowhead = 100 arrows.

 

True

Also True

There is a problem with your math here....

1ea Arrowhead makes 100 Arrows.
So, since 100x100=10,000..... 100 Arrowheads make 10,000 Arrows - not 1,000 Arrows.

It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of math.

 

I fought my way across solace bridge with my bow and by the end skeleton i had no arrows left, any archer would retrieve the arrows from the bodies but no arrows were on the bodies of slain skels, surely unbalanced?

 

True...
So, in terms of Feathers, 100 Arrows cost 40gp's.

While that seems excessive on the face of it, even at low levels of Archery, obtaining sufficient loot to afford that cost is not a huge deal.

And by the time you're even moderately proficient, that same number of Arrows will yield even more gp's, making the cost even less relevant.

And the time required to harvest the wood and ore becomes much less of an issue once you're a good archer....

What am I missing???

 

What level of Archery were you?
If you were brand new, you will miss a lot......
Being a brand new Archer does have it's challenges..........

Having said that, I also have a Polearms guy in addition to my Archer that had his own challenges when he was new....

So, hopefully - it all evens out...

Archers are hitting harder than they used to, and the skill gains are beginning to make sense (for the most part)....
I'm hopeful.

 

I thought someone with a spreadsheet was saying it's more like 76g per? The chemicals - whatever their new names are to convert the wood into timber then into boards, and the coal to smelt and make the arrowheads.

 

It's a process, making Arrows...

Part of that process requires 1 Ingot (Copper or Iron, it doesn't care).
Making that 1 Ingot requires 4 Ore and 1 Chunk of Coal.
That 1 Ingot will make 1 Arrowhead.
1 Arrowhead will make 100 Arrows.

So your cost for 100 Arrows, in terms of Coal, is 1 Chunk of Coal or 6 gps per 100 Arrows.
So, that's the Coal cost part.

As far as the Creosote part is concerned (Chemicals were replaced by Creosote last release, btw) , I believe it (the overall cost in gp's) to be minimal as well....