Back Stab?

Can we get some explanation as to why this was changed to a skill in the subterfuge tree?

Any attack from behind should do a lot more damage than one from the front, this is not a skill nor should it be.

The game still has to acknowledge that the attack is from behind. This worked marginally even before this release. I can tell you for a fact that my ranged attacks did not do significantly more damage when something was running away from me.

Now for it to even be counted I have to train a skill - sure it is not hard to do it but again WHY?

All this appears to do is now even more complicate math in doing damage.

Players hardly knew how their damage worked before this change.

 

I thought that your critical hit chance goes up if attacking from behind. Was this changed?

 

Yea, that's my understanding, and also shields don't block from behind, parries don't work from behind, its a lot of things.

Just because there's a Sneak Attack skill doesn't mean all that goes away. People can also run without the Sprint skill.

 

Well i like it more like this. Its now clear. I do 22% more dmg at gm. Simple enough.

 

yea and it is a skill, some can be better then others at it. Anything can be a skill in reality.

 

So this was changed at launch? I don't understand why. I guess it is probably a 4x skill too. ugh. Goodbye to a couple million more XP, I guess...

 

That was changed R49 or R50.

 

Next will be a skill for attacking from an elevated spot.

 

I'm still waiting for a definitive answer from someone like @Chris if the backstab skill works for archery weapons.. I've heard a few yes it does and no it doesn't - but haven't seen anything definitive yet.

 

Unfortunately you can block and parry attacks from behind, I think it shouldn't do it.

 

That was a bug that was previously fixed -- if it has come back, please submit a bug report with the details.

 

We asked for the telethon and it was supposedly answered that it works with Ranged.

 

So, is there any advantage to attacking from behind besides the opponent not being able to block?

 

Will do!
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/f...arry-work-from-behind-bug-or-intended.118642/

 

They can't hit you til they turn around.

If you level backstab and shoot from elevation, you still get a damage bonus.

 

This was one of my questions during the livestream and @Chris confirmed that it works with Ranged.

 

Im not sure why this is being brought up as a big issue. It looks like normal "back" attacks hit for a bonus of 10% and now we have a skill that at gm is up to 22%. This seems completely logical to me, the skill just hones a players ability to hit critical spots in someones back. Seems like a non-issues here.

 

We used to get a ton of damage plus an awesome crit chance for attacking in the back. This made engagements a little more tactical and created a fun playstyle. They took that away and created a skill as a bandaid. The skill just lacks the fun and awarding play style that we had. That is how I feel at least. I rather have that skill spot filled with something more fun, not to cover something we already had.

 

well lets see since there was a 4x bonus for hitting from behind that did not always work then this is the change is to balance that out since 4x was WAYY to much.

In order for it to work you just had to be behind your target - which make perfect sense as hit from behind cannot be dodged or defended against.

So sure 4x is out of whack but why is the fix actually to implement a skill to use something that really is not a skill.

plus if you get great at it is only 22%?

that is your answer