Chained Obsidian Shard - PvP only ... really?

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  1. Barugon

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    Yes, someone please tell me which basement this will fit in.
     
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    I am guessing one of the big arena basements with a tall ceiling, considering what 4B managed to build down in one once...

     
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    maybe they can make a version for non-PvP towns... like a chained cracked obsidian shard stone? ^^ @DarkStarr
     
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    Yeah, but if it requires a Keep basement, again, excessively limiting.
     
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    The Town and City arena basements also have pretty high ceilings, but may be a bit lacking in space after placing the Shard.
     
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    We have like 99.9% of the store items available for all, and just because they put one item for Open pvp POT scenes, we are going mad now? :( try to think about it. We must try to think what others needs too, not just what we need.
     
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    Ohhh people...please stop being so selfish. :-( Not every single aspect or change needs to benefit you personally. Please think of the health of the game.
     
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    As i ever state. This is not consensual.
    Nor pvp exclusive items nor scenes.
    Maybe titles can be exclusive, this is no content.
    Scenes or items are content.
    To be locked out from things isnt consensual!!!
    The choice pve only has is an insult and no consensual Choice!!!

    If you want to play this game competetive you need very much time to raise the numbers because unfortunately the competetive game is
    controlled by hardcore powergamers.
    This means if you are playing pve only because of your available time and you are more casual and cooperative you can choose whether to partake in PvP or not.
    This is consensual. But if this means you have to abandon specific scenes and items, well this is not consensual, it's insulting.
    The big thing to me as a pvp gamer is, i see no cause to do this.
    If people want to fight they can do it alltime everywhere. If not you can choose to not visit a couple of scenes or have this deco (lore relevant and for a RPer maybe important).
    It should be a choice if i go for Obsidian Shards and Ruins to visit or to deco my PoT or Lot with.
    Why are Obsidian Towers not pvp exclusive?

    The reasons are clearly. PvP need a matter.
    This cannot be generated freely
    PVPers want the other to be overwhelmed to feel that he matters.
    If it is just voluntary and they would grant a pve player to play solo and then switch back to MP and Run safe through Bloodbay they would cry PvP has no matter.
    They need the matter to impair another.
    And if the other is not prepared, doesnt want it and loose the matter and meaning grow.

    It's everything else but consensual, it just more insulting pve only to abandon content.

    I have learned to accept to abandon things while i am not striving.
    But i am sad that many Games are controlled by people that have this mindestens while playing and cannot grant everybody his style to play and have full Access to everything the game offers.

    A part of the playerbase doesnt grant me some content and this is from what they get their matter and meaning for pvp.

    Just...
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    I am highly, HIGHLY offended by this post and image.
     
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    There is no risk versus reward.
    It's just...
    Powergamers versus casualplayers.
    If you have not the time or fun grinding your Ass of to be competetive there is no risk you take, there is just a big chance to die.

    This all is no decision of taking a risk, it's about the willing and possibility to raise your Char.

    Just disadvantaging casualgamers
     
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    Furthermore, stop lumping me in with your pathological crying. I am a casual player and see NOTHING wrong with these PvP-centric changes and items. It's not affecting you, so stop it.

    EDIT: It's going to affect you when your constant cries of "no fair!" scare so many players away (PvP and non-PvP) that there's noone to play with and the game fails.
     
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    Why it need to be exclusive?

    Pve isnt exclusive.
    Some people just dont want to fight other people, just because they behave like....
    And abuse their strength they have achieved while powergaming.
     
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    But they want us to force or to abandon!
    That is not what i can accept and expect from consensual.
     
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    We need to get rid of those extremists. They are just as bad as the FULL LOOT FFA crowd.
    You have to make choices. Consensual doesn't mean you get all you want.

    If you suck at the game, you will not achieve much. That's why it is still a game and not imaginary fairy land.
     
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    I want inactive Ruins and Shardfall scenes too.
     
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    I also would like to say they should remove the PVP flag. It should be a NOT PROTECTED flag.
    SotA was announced as a sandbox like UO with a story like Ultima 7. So please understand PVE and PVP work together here. It would also be better connected with the Lore and less immersion breaking.
     
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    You want to break the game world into separate states.. Play singleplayer offline for that.
     
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    Good Morning,

    After an amount of sleep, i'm calming down ;)


    I've no problem when PvP-flagged People cracks the Skulls of other PvP-flagged People
    I've no problem when there are POTs which are PvP-flagged
    I've no problem when there are PvP-flagged Propertys
    I've no problem when there are PvP-flagged Regions / NPC-Towns

    But:

    I've a huge problem when in PvP-flagged Regions / NPC-Towns are Questhubs, have rare Resources, Boss-Mobs and other Content for the PvE-Peoples.
    So many other MMORPGs have already Solutions for this Dilemma, like Arenas and Ranking Lists ...

    And i've still a huge problem when there are Decorations and comparable things sold exclusive to PvP-flagged POTs etc.
     
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    We dont want arenas and ranking lists. We want a virtual world like uo with story like ultima. This is what was advertised in the kickstarter.
     
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    I do not envy Portalarium. :(
     
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