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DDOS Attack

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    no time to read anything but the OP, work is kinda busy today oddly enough...

    lol thanks! just made my day.
     
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    I'm afraid that one went over my head...
     
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    Watching that website is strangely soothing.
     
    Mitch [MGT], Apr 1, 2016
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    Seems like a lot of MMO these days are getting DDOS. I hope this does not doom the future of online gaming.
     
    Favonius Cornelius, Apr 1, 2016
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    Update: Actually this appears to be a connection problem within our cloud host that caused the Altair9000. Just a coincidence that is also happened while the website was under a DDOS. Hoping to have things restored shortly.
     
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    Also, this is far from the first DDOS attack on the website. We get those frequently. :( The game servers actually run UDP so they can be attacked via flood but a tougher type attack to pull off.
     
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    Cloudflare's DDOS protection for websites is pretty decent and free. I hope you're leveraging that.

    And UDP traffic has plenty of advantages. I'm not sure why people often treat UDP like a dirty word. Games are a particularly good use case for UDP traffic.
     
    enderandrew, Apr 1, 2016
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    UDP is efficient and has low overhead _but_ in a DDoS context it's tougher to defend against UDP attacks - primarily because it's connectionless and hence source addresses can be spoofed. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
     
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    You know why and who DDOSing SOTA? gold sellers tried to establish themselves, but they couldn't find any hooks to exploit, so they are raging now .... If you tack sources of the attack, I wonder where would they originate... Hmm... I don't wanna be a jerk throwing around stereotypical conclusions, so I'll leave it at that... Hopefully Portalarium can withstand the attacks.
     
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    Dont Worry Yall! The release party is still gonna happen! Justyn and I decorated it so fiercy that people with small "swords" cant get in! Also, the strongest mages casted protection spells around the town AND if thats not enough I am sure the devs can drop a bunch of scary purple Llamas as protection as well! Get ready to party hard in Serpents Watch!
     
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    Thanks for suggesting, and yes, we did (back then) talk about it. Given that SotA's site is pretty dynamic in content, with the heaviest use on the forums, CloudFlare caching is of little benefit to us. And Cloudflare's DDoS protection is rate limiting, etc., which we also do in multiple ways on our side, eventually blacklisting abusers. Cloudflare is designed IMHO rather for people with a single server set up, not having any time or money or both to bother about load balancing, anti-DoS techniques, etc.. And that is a setup we already surpassed before we launched on Kickstarter. With every attack we were able to tweak our setup, and well... the one from this morning (on the website) wasn't even noticeable to the end user.
    That counts for the website, though, which usually is the primary attack surface for most script kiddies out there. The game server is a different setup and sees less attacks, so things will also grow from experience, there. Thanks for hanging in there with us.
     
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    Not certain... often it's just a botnet of hijacked machines. This morning, interestingly enough, every single one of the IPs involved were from a big hosting company, originating from multiple datacenters all over the US. So... either somebody found a bigger exploit and was able to spin up a lot of machines, or someone having access to that infrastructure (e.g. an admin) is (ab)using it.
    We blocked entire IP ranges belonging to that hoster, as it is very unlikely that SotA is important to be reached from a datacenter. However, to make sure we didn't block people using some hosted machine as a proxy or so, we verified that none of the IPs blocked accessed the game or website, before.
    Also, I reported the abuse to that company, hoping they'll look at who's controlling those machines, but haven't heard back, yet.
     
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    If that's soothing, then Norse kinda failed with their marketing idea behind that map.You're supposed to see that attacks are everywhere, then get paranoid, and then buy their products... ;)
     
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    Now THAT is some great feedback !

    Thanks for taking the time to keep us in the loop. @tphilipp .... :)

    Gonna relax now and use the time to explore Single Player Offline.... ;)
     
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    :) Thanks for the nice words, and for hanging in there, and sorry for the inconveniences caused.
     
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    We're all in this together......;)
     
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    If there was a drinking contest in the grand world of things that happen with IT, we'd all die of liver failure :p
     
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