Housing Guests, Item Placement

I understand that Tennants cannot place items on top of another players items, but what about Guest level players? Would they be able to place items on top of items owned by other players? Would those items have to be labled as “guest” first?

In short, when I finish my theatre I want those performing to have the option of using props on my stage. If I set the stone blocks “stage” to Guest level and make them Private (prevents being moved by other guests) would they be able to place items on top of these blocks? I’m at work and thinking of design ideas, so I cannot test myself at the moment.

 

guest only allows people to bypass your locked door if you lock the door.

 

Which level allows the placement of items? Does it do anything else?

 

I think you must give them tenant status for them to place items

 

Kindred+.

 

Haven't been able to get guild to help test this yet, but can Kindred place items on top of Co-Owner items? Can they only place items on top of Kindred items they didn't place? If so, what if those Kindred items are made Private? Guild mate just mentioned that if I set an item to 'Kindred' it means the guild has access to modifying it. Is this true? (Though, he did say he was in a guild chapter house, which makes all members auto-kindred to it, right?)

The problem is that 'Tenants' cannot place items on top of other items they didn't place themselves and the goal is to give performances the option of using props on my stage.

 

See if we can sort through this one.

Yes.
However with the exception of a Kindred with Tenant status placing an object under Tenant rules.

No they can place anywhere.

Private only means players with the same access level cannot move/take the object.
However players with higher access level can still move/take the object.

If it is a chapter lot then
member = kindred
officer = trustee
So yes then all members can place (and take) objects. It also means they cannot place stuff as tenants unless explicitly added as such.
Which means if the lot reverses everything goes to the lot owner.

 

Thanks for all the clarification! So, in short, if someone wants to host a play in my theater and wishes to use props all I need to do is make them Kindred and they can place items on top of my stage? The stage is currently made of stone blocks, but I may change it to a 4X stage.

After the play is over, when I remove their Kindred status, does anything they may have forgotten to pick up get sent to their bank like a Tenant or would it stay there? May have to make several sweeps of the basement with how intricate this is gonna be. The 10K item limit leaves me a lot of room to play around with. The 'Bladed Rose Theatre' (name pending) is underway!

 

Yes kindred could place props on stage.
If you revoke their Kindred access everything stays. Nothing goes to bank.

Best of luck with the theatre. Sounds like fun.

 

The blocks in the middle are to be the stage with entrances that go below a set of higher bleachers on both sides. I've still a long ways to go before the base layout of the stage is complete. Playing around with ideas to build staircase leading to the bleachers. I'll fill in the 4 gaps on the side with raised rose gardens that I plan to incorporate into staircase leading up. The stage and bleachers will have protective railing as to prevent accidentally falling into the pit. I'm designing this to act as both a stage for performances as well as a unique combat arena where the combatants will either meet on the stage to fight or possibly use the maze-like structure in it's entirety.

If anyone feels like donating granite to this beast of a project my characters name is the same as my forum name and thanks ahead of time!

 

Are you using the stones for a reason instead of a stage? Just wondering. So far it looks nice. I hope the blocks let you stack things good on them I am playing around with a stage on my roof lol. I am just wishing for half size stages and different wood colors and surfaces of stages too.

 

When I first started the design I knew I wanted the stage to be elevated. I wanted it to be big, larger than the available Stage, and I wanted it to be unique. Fortunately, I had enough spare Dark Rough Stone Blocks to build the foundation to the stage. Unfortunately, the wooden stage cannot be placed on top of blocks, so it's all I have available to work with to achieve this goal really. Still, I like the way the stage is forming and the concepts I am able to utilize beyond my original scope. The elevated blocks are just high enough to easily be viewed from my personal seat and the varying heights of the soon-to-be 360° bleacher seating offer a visual dynamic from the stage that is truly grand. Imagine, if you will, a play being performed or a duel being fought before a packed 8 bleachers surrounding you.


As far as a formal stage goes, I've dedicated a room in the main building for just such an occasion. There are 2 side rooms for actors to use, controlled lighting and row seating for up to 18 audience.



There is also the performance area in the Dining Hall, the 'Smoke Room' for telling stories, the Ballroom for dances and a fully stocked tavern.


The building is intended for use in all manner of RP, but the most important part is the Theater within the catacombs. The entrance (Krypt) is designed to simulate going 'down stairs' rather that merely clicking on a hatch. The Keep Arena Basement has a Stairway transition, so there are no ladders involved.


Given how the entrance turned out I designed the dining hall around 2 representatives as I see this as being a nice Wedding venue. The first floor entrance was designed around an indoor garden.

For those interested in seeing the progress the location is the Keep at the back of Celestis. It's the only Kobold Great Hall in the scene, so it's hard to miss.

 

Greetings @Vallin Tregres
Look at this post I put together a while ago when I was working on my POT New Fawn. It might have some hints for you but the best way i figured out was to have the stage on a property and grant kindred to people and co-owner to all items on the lot. Come visit to see how I have done things. I can give you kindred level. I am nested in Harvest and Hollaim.

https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/permissions-for-players-and-items.97018/

 

What I've used on top of blocks for stage purposes are the Gothic Tables. You can even place them with only one quarter support etc.

Please make sure you only use up 3 deco on top of eachother since the limit is 5, that means your stage workers have 2 deco to work with.

 

thanks for sharing. I really like your deco. and too sometimes we have to find alternatives when we are limited on what we can or cannot do *sighs* but it is a good challenge for us. Also perhaps an opportunity to request things.

 

Brilliant! I'll look into this when I'm back on. Thanks for the advice. A smooth table top would make an excellent floor for the stage.

 

Yea it looks much sleeker/posh as well.
Especially if you utilize other deco in the same color scheme as well as the ornate dividers and the benefactor piano etc.

 

Turns out tables can't stack on the blocks either...

 

Huh?

I did it for the R45 party. Have they changed it? Arrghhhh.
Have to test.

 

Was hoping to use Sturdy Table given they have a singular color without patterns, but it turns out they cannot be placed on blocks. Gothic Table, however, can. So, I guess I'll upgrade what I have to Gothic.