[Known] breakable barrel with lamp on top AND Archer can hit me from the bottom but I'm out of reach

09/27/2018 21:09
Title: brackable barrel with lamp on top AND Archer can hit me from the bottom but I only get 0 out of reach
Reproduction Rate: 100%
Blocker? have to move down 1 platform to hit
Details:
Steps to Reproduce:stay there and wait till a archer spawns down at the tracksand get aggro on you
User Specs:
OS: Windows 7 (6.1.0) 64bit
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (8) System RAM: 32710
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 GPU RAM: 4002
SotA.Win.64.836.Date.09.26.18
Area: Novia_R8_Hills01_VerdantisMines
Area Display Name: Verdantis Mines
Loc: (65.4, 9.7, 158.5)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjhfSGlsbHMwMV9WZXJkYW50aXNNaW5lc3x8KDY1LjQ0NCwgOS42OTYsIDE1OC40NTEpfCgwLCAwLjc4MiwgMCwgMC42MjMpfDUyMy43NjE5fDQ3LjQ5NzI5fDYuMzk4MDQ=

 

This is issue #62107. The intention was to make it so player's can't engage in combat outside of the navigable spaces. However, this case reveals that there are many such spaces (like in the mines) that are commonplace and hard-to-avoid. We will be making an improvement here. Won't in be build #838, but hopefully the one after that.

 

The way it worked prior to R57 was that if a mob could hit you (archer, mage), you could hit them. So if you were on a table or other spot where melee couldn't reach, you could still go to war with any archers/mages in the room but would be unable to hit melee (melee would also leash back to their initial spots in this scenario). In R57, things got broken so you could engage melee whether or not they could hit you, and melee would just stand there and die. I thought the R56 and prior behavior was correct. I'm not sure why it got changed at all in R57. I'd not expect any change in behavior for archers/mages, in that if they can hit you, you should be able to hit them.

 

IMO - when I think of archery. Its not me going toe to toe with a opponent on the same square box on the ground . I understand that there is a possibility for people to abuse the mechanics -
I think I should be able to hide behind something, or climb to a higher spot, pop in and out of a window or from the top of a bldg. during a siege. If an opponent can hit me when I climb on something - then I should also be able to target them and hit. To me its just not true to the class , makes it kind of unplayable sine almost everywhere you get 4-5 every pull (except in a grp)

 

09/28/2018 17:07
Title:another place where the NPC can hit me but I can't hit him, but my elemental next to me also can hit him
Reproduction Rate:
Blocker?
Details:
Steps to Reproduce:
User Specs:
OS: Windows 7 (6.1.0) 64bit
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (8) System RAM: 32710
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 GPU RAM: 4002
SotA.Win.64.838.Date.09.27.18
Area: Novia_R8_Hills01_VerdantisMinesEntrance
Area Display Name: Verdantis Foothills
Loc: (-160.7, 67.5, -184.7)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjhfSGlsbHMwMV9WZXJkYW50aXNNaW5lc0VudHJhbmNlfHwoLTE2MC42NzEsIDY3LjUsIC0xODQuNjY1KXwoMCwgMC44NzQsIDAsIDAuNDg3KXwxMjEuNzY5N3wtMy45NDU1Mzl8Mi4zOTg4NjM=

 

09/28/2018 17:15
Title:the NPC on Platform(melee) can't be hit from this location but it has a clear path....(starting spawn)
Reproduction Rate:
Blocker?
Details:
Steps to Reproduce:
User Specs:
OS: Windows 7 (6.1.0) 64bit
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (8) System RAM: 32710
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 GPU RAM: 4002
SotA.Win.64.838.Date.09.27.18
Area: Novia_R8_Hills01_VerdantisMines
Area Display Name: Verdantis Mines
Loc: (57.6, 11.7, 174.6)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjhfSGlsbHMwMV9WZXJkYW50aXNNaW5lc3x8KDU3LjU4NCwgMTEuNjgsIDE3NC42NDUpfCgwLCAwLjk1NCwgMCwgMC4yOTkpfDE1Mi42MDg0fDMxLjcyODh8Mi4zOTg4NjM=

BUT the melee NPC can be hit from this location and is still unable to leave its platform

My loc
Area: Verdantis Mines (Novia_R8_Hills01_VerdantisMines) Loc: (58,3, 7,9, 161,4) DBG: Tm92aWFfUjhfSGlsbHMwMV9WZXJkYW50aXNNaW5lc3x8KDU4LjI4NSwgNy45NDYsIDE2MS4zNzUpfCgwLCAwLjQwMywgMCwgMC45MTUpfDM2LjY3MzUxfDEwLjk0NTczfDIuMzk4ODYz

NPC location:
Loc: (64,4, 9,7, 166,5)

 

Can be hit by archers and mages on the "tent"
the archer here:
Area: Verdantis Mines (Novia_R8_Hills01_VerdantisMines) Loc: (42,2, 7,6, 100,6) DBG:

can hit me there:

09/28/2018 17:41
SotA.Win.64.838.Date.09.27.18
Area: Novia_R8_Hills01_VerdantisMines
Area Display Name: Verdantis Mines
Loc: (48.5, 6.4, 94.9)
Debug: Tm92aWFfUjhfSGlsbHMwMV9WZXJkYW50aXNNaW5lc3x8KDQ4LjQ4OSwgNi4zOTUsIDk0LjkzNSl8KDAsIC0wLjUyNywgMCwgMC44NSl8LTQxOS42MjEyfDcuOTg4MDExfDIuMzk4ODYz