Manually multi boxing 5 characters in Shroud of the Avatar

Maybe -single-instance should be forced?

 

@Chris Thats what I'm doing. Did you watch the video? Whats your point?

 

If you’re just using Synergy or Input Director or similar style KVM to control multiple computers from 1 keyboard and mouse - this seems like a legit playstyle IMHO - but if you’re mirroring a single keyboard and mouse to multiple characters simultaneously then I think that’s what people are concerned about.

 

It's all 100% manual input which is all 100% visible to anyone who watches the video. If its going to fast for you to understand whats going on please slow the video to 0.25 and watch the mouse cursor and keyboard inputs.

 

So if I used magic instead and cast spells that would be ok?

 

I'm guessing you haven't watched the video. I'm interacting with all 5 clients constantly.

There are many people multi boxing. I don't think banning it would be a good idea.

 

It should be considered exploiting the game if this is allowed please allow botting only a small next step.

 

So if you multi boxing 2 characters and you cast a heal over time on one and the go to the other client this would be considered the same thing correct? And if your a fire mage using damage over time this is the same thing correct?

So you are saying that its not ok to multi box basically? Are you going to ban multi boxing then?

 

Same thing with crafting =) no multi box

 

Exactly CICI.

You either allow multi boxing or you don't. You cant craft with 2 clients focused at the same time. So if your crafting on two characters and one client isn't focused how is this different?

 

Auto attack is great until the target is dead. Then you have to select the client by clicking on it, and press tab to select a new target. Then you wait for it to die whether focused or not. So just to get this straight this is your major problem with what I'm doing, the waiting for target to die and not having the window focused while this happens?

Your making out like I go to some boss fight, setup auto attack and come back in 5 mins and loot. This couldn't be any further from the truth of what I'm doing. Not to mention its a completely pointless strategy that achieves nothing. If I wasn't attending to all 5 characters constantly they would die.

 

Maybe we should think about why this happens. This can of course be just a fun way to play the game, but sometimes it is done when necessary. When the game has such a need, the reason should be found out.

UT is a place where most old players can solo. It is not very effective to practice 5 characters together. Some of them used to be mining while practicing in RISE. Isn't this more practical?
The biggest direction of the game is to collect experience points and consumables. Consumables are excusable, but the endless chase experience value is not very attractive to new players. 6 million experience points per day may mean that players do the same thing in UT, daily, monthly. This is unhealthy for the game, and players only have high experience benefits in their eyes.

Many games only officially start after full level, including UO, WOW, etc., which are familiar to everyone. At present, it seems that we have not yet started. In order for everyone to start enjoying the world of SOTA as soon as possible, it is better to let everyone reach 200 as soon as possible. Think about it, new players will have to repeat the same steps in UT's dungeons for 2 to 3 months. Who will join? They did not even want to mine after they failed to train, because the monsters in the dungeon were beyond imagination. But after training? They will be empty. I hope the designer can change this situation.

 

Crafting would become a nightmare @Chris if window focus becomes a thing.
I know when I'm smelting 10,000 ores I set 60 going and tab out to do other things. Even if not multi-boxing there needs to be an exception in there for crafting / refining because of the tedium involved. Most people are not going to have the game focused while refining.

 

This is a kinda interesting dilemma of where to draw the line.
From my understanding, the key has always been attended vs. unattended.

There are a LOT of time sinky mechanics (looking at you, smelting) where you set the character going and the character does not require input from the player for 2-3 minutes for a basic batch size. Implementing a mechanic like this is just begging players to tab out of the game and do something else while they wait for it. The next step of course being, to simply run more than one instance of the client in parallel. The smelting keeps going on one client while you attend to the next, and then you tab out and watch netflix or read the forums while they finish. This is fine. When it becomes not fine is if the player uses a bot, or script, or macro, to run their smelting operation while they're at work or asleep or otherwise not at the computer at all.

Based on that premise, if a player puts themself into 'autoattack' and the character slowly beats something to death while the player queues up another character and another, I don't really see a problem with it? Its not particularly efficient (a player playing actively using skills would kill a lot faster, imo) and you'd still have to tab over to loot, target/engage next mob, and set it up each time. As long as there is no automation/scripting/unattendedness, |I think its fine? Executing skills while the window isn't focused would require some sort of third party program or script, which would cross the line. But characters continuing in the state you left them in until you focus that window and interact?

My concern on this is that if you make the game do nothing when you don't focus the window, then you will need to COMPLETELY re-think the ENTIRE refining system because watching 20 hours a week of scrollbar timers is simply not engaging gameplay. The only reason most of us put up with it is because we can tab out and do something else while it goes. You'd need to rethink gathering system, too, because the gather timers even with gm'd skills and obspots are still slow and painful enough to benefit from tab-out-netflix-until-you-hear-the-pickaxe-noises-stop. What he's doing with combat is no different, except that he has to pay more attention to it and the attention threshold is a lot higher.

 

Maybe if crafting wasn't just sitting at a timer / status bar for so long people wouldn't want to try and work around the system by using multiple accounts?