(NecroThread)Archery "adjustments"

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  1. Spinok

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    I already know how you guys count so, I cant believe you, I checked the video this guy makes queen from 18 to 34 minutes of his stream it is 16 minutes. 16 minutes is not 3 minutes. After he kill the queen so noob way(fully charged, poor fire skills), I`m doubt that he can finish the encounter for 3 minutes. So time to prove from you. Again if you dont understand he come to battlefield on 18 minute and finish the queen on 34 it 16 minutes. 16 minutes is not 3 )
     
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    That "noob" who did what you said couldn't be done with a "skill" you said shouldn't be nerfed is actually one hell of a player, BTW.

    Maybe someone who knows about charged shot archery can defend it now.
     
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    Look at 4:50-4:53, one dead queen and hes not even trying hard.

    I lil bit after that in his stream he even does it with all spiders dead and shes enraged, took longer, but to be expected as shes enraged.
     
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    He starts queen on 54 minute finished on 1:08, 14 minutes still suxx. Come on guys...
    P.S. Guys start of counting should began not from time when queen come, but the time he began to kill young spider(so he began the encounter)
     
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    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/460072999

    4:50-4:53, didn't even use blind just used blinding shot.
     
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    OH he made a record 4:43 started 4:53 finished, he even use 30% of charging on charged shots, still 10 minutes guys, still very bad.
     
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    First off we are talking about the spider queen itself, not the whole encounter. And you say you can do it in 4-5 minutes, I really wonder how the hell you do that whole encounter including queen when the small spiders are on a wave timer of 4 minutes, you just keep getting the same wave over and over again till that timer wears off. Can I see your video of this? Can you prove anything you say?
     
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    Ahhhh... you were saying 4-5 minutes is "normal" counting the initial FOUR MINUTE baby wave? So.... a 0-1 minute queen kill solo? Love to see that - just post it here when you have time.
     
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    I`m clockwork dragon specialist 1 minute average on the long range, so its not my secret. I have few guildies who are spiders queen pro 4-5 minutes their time, I will talk with them tomorrow may be I will say more. I cant give a video. But I have reputation so you can believe or not ) Few hints is Fire+Air specs its all what I can say now. And its not about charged(If we talk about solo avatar(not multiboxing))
     
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    personally, I meant that killing the spider Queen. 4-5 minutes is normal
    I stopped measuring time on murders a long time ago
    someone kills faster, someone slower
    but the spider Queen is definitely an encounter for archers
    and Girlsname does everything very good, I think with experience will do even better
     
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    So you are talking about just the queen and not the whole encounter is 4-5 minutes?
     
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    we've beaten the archery topic to death, pugilism is at least something novel and different! ;)
     
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    That's what this thread is for.
     
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    So all this time you really had no idea yourself, you just assumed you knew everything and didnt test it? Do you even know why blind was doing that? It was from the way crit chance works now doing the comparison of your dex vs your targets dex, so if you have high dex and you lower their dex it would reach a breaking point and bug out and give you 100% crits. The reason bow was easy to reach that point is because 10 dex modifies a bow users crit chance unlike melee who it is 20 dex. Sun spec had nothing to do with it, that just reduces the targets crit damage. But ya, I know nothing about min maxing pve, and I back up that nothing I know up with videos LOL. But keep bashing people and spreading misinformation based on your assumptions, makes you look really smurt. I think you just ruined your reputation.
     
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    I showed screens with 100% crit chance on the forum and in Bloodbay channel almost year ago. You get info about it two weeks ago, and start cry, its not funny.
    You can think what you want. The fact that person who only knows how to make UT fast and person who fight with physical guys without death shield crying 20 pages about how archery is OP, I`m tired.
    Dont forget to call youself main hypocrite in SOTA becouse calling BOW OP using FIRE is just LOL. Nerf yourself first, when go with you opinion to other trees.
     
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    Learn to read, never said bow is OP said charged shot was, you know that skill that you said (as I said befor If archer only use charged attack he suck ). So why are you so up in arms about a skill getting nerfed that you say sucks? Since we are making stuff up, you only dont want to make videos so people dont see all the bugs you use. I can make stuff up too. I knew about the crit chance thing about 4 months ago, sorry I am not as good as you at finding bugs to abuse.
     
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    Becouse it kills another way to play this game, when you play archer you can be only charged, glyphs+autoattack, and mixed(glyph+charged). Nerfing charged will make less way to play the game as an archer would be only glyph+autoattack. And yes I like to make pew-pew sometimes. I`d like when I crafting bow to choose what bow to make with skill masterworks or with charged related masterworks.
    You said many times that you dont like "caps" in capless game(Imho there is huge ammount caps in Sota (it can be called soft cap but its not so soft)) why you want to cap other style of gaming ? Becouse its more effective then your style ? Adopt, become better, increase you skill, get second window, get third window. There is huge amount of choices how to make things faster but you prefer to cap others opposite to advance your style.
    Any facts about bugs abuse from my side ? No facts at all. And we all know that you sold bugged totem with the words like: all using bugs I want to be competitive, yes you send money back its good but action was made and words was told...
    More, when half of the server using login logoff stuff to dig in incredible ammount of ore and XP per hour, I made all to stop this, and never used it, and you can trust with my multiboxing skills I could be 110+ craft level on many chars If I used it.
     
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    The bug was that there was no check for negative damage avoidance and it would end up modifying your crit chance. The dex difference certainly helps but the big contributor was the DA debuff.
     
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    Any facts that I dont know how to min max pve? Any facts that I only do UT? So, you can make stuff up about me, but I am not allowed to make stuff up about you? Talk about a hypocrite. After seeing your guildy selling double same stat enchanted armor, you know, stuff that has stats that are impossible to get the right way and nothing was done about it? Or another one of your guildies logging in and out killing the envy angel over and over again for envy bows, Ya, I was pissed off and sick of people getting away with this crap, I listed a totem that was made from a bug just like your guildy listed that armor, difference is, I gave the coin back and all those totems got fixed. Did your guildy give the coin back? That armor is sill out in the game. I now have a level 6 totem, anyone got +13 int heavy armor chest yet, no, well then I wonder what was worse.
     
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    But then why without raising blind but raising dex help reach that breakpoint?
     
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