No Melee Engineers Anymore...

Seriusly, not just a single melee one?
Great, this will make me wanna just skip sieges forever from now on.

I already did it with the mountain version, now will do it with all of them.
Good luck for ya archers/mages who won't spend 2 minutes chasing down people around while ankle snared.

Sieges had been by large my primary exp source. Now i guess I'll just go back to doing K'rul endlessly again. Anyway... ;(

 

PS: I've been playtesting this and... yeah, really this "experience" is just more of a nuisance than anything else. Disliked from the bottom of my heart. :/

 

Boo-urns.

 

Not from a practical point of view, just a general feeling, I always thought it was cool that they were both archers and melee.

 

I personally will never understand why an engineer should also be a marksman... instead they should throw some grenades, fight with hammers (yeah, fixing catapults and smashing heads), call reinforcements (summon a lower minion or aggro the vicinities?), build some machinery... or have automaton pets... at most, shoot with rifles or crossbows at a distance and switch weapons for melee. But never have the same mobility or mechanic as a ever-running archer. Anyway...

 

I know the melee ones had some AI problems with the current live release but I also feel this is a very annoyng way to fix that. I hope they reconsider as sieges are generally one of the things to at end game.

 

i could solo sieges before, if i was willing to die nine or ten times to do it. it was always the archers that killed me. no more sieges for me.

 

The Archer engineers in hill sieges run around a lot more than other Archer enemies. I wonder if this is intended. The time it takes to chase them down as a melee character, even with stuns, is crazy.

 

Swarms of archers in sieges is NOT FUN.

 

Archers would not be as difficult if they behaved properly... like not being able to shoot while a melee person is hitting them. Blocking with a bow will greatly increase the damage to the bow. Limited ammunition (encumbrance, etc.). And this should apply to Avatars as well. Increase the damage of a good hit in the back. Allow passive shield carrying to actually block shots as well, active blocking should make archery not hit at all unless flanked.
Never mind, repeating things over and over and over does absolutely nothing, just makes me play less.

 

Perhaps they can tell us why they decided to do this....
Because as previously stated I don't think I would do sieges if its all archers I had tried a mountain siege before that had all archer siege engineers and immediately left, it is not fun at all....
So maybe a little insight to this change might help us understand

 

As an archer myself I am not happy either, because GUESS WHO IS WAY UP EVERYONES HITLIST!

 

NPC Archers hit me 10x harder then melee and mages... without a doubt. I think the npc's are far to powerful for their given levels (and the melee are to weak... which is probably why they changed).

 

Since you have been playing with enemy behaviors maybe you could incorporate that into siege engineers, and give them some bludgeon skills since it does make since for them to have a hammer for repairs.... but they could perhaps be a mix melee at times and range at others, just a suggestion

 

Just cleared a camp on QA. Siege equals NOT FUN. As a melee fighter I spent all my time chasing the dumba** mobs around while they used disabling shot on me. Sure I get thats a valid tactic but I'm way over level for the camps and it was more like swatting mosquitoes. I get why you had to changed them @Sannio but something else needs to be done. What if it was a mid tier like boss that we couldn't attack or he couldn't attack us until the rest of the camp was cleared?

 

ya, melee needs to learn and use body slam as often as possible.

 

That wasn't the point I was making @2112Starman. Thanks but I know how to play the game.

 

Sorry, you said you have to chaise the mobs around all over the place as a melee. I played a Bludge for over a year and a half and I got around that with using body slam so I didn't have to chase them. Sorry to offend you bud, just trying to help.

In PvP, archers who ran, jumped and hopped around in PvP were the easiest for me to kill as a melee, just chain body slam them and they dropped in seconds.

 

I was being completely lazy about it when I was doing the camp, which I should have stated. The mobs are green to me and die in a couple of swings. In pvp that would be a different story of course. Sorry about that Starman.