Random Discussion About Chris' Daily Blog

Discussion in 'Developer Depot' started by Chris, Apr 5, 2017.

  1. Vladamir Begemot

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    FWIW my unlearning of archery isn't a rage unlearning, it's a "yay I can respec for free after spreading myself too thin!"

    Looking forward to doing the same with some random other skills next Thurs.
     
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    Hmm.. Either magic requires words of power, or it doesn't. It sounds like more of a lore issue that has to be dealt with than a practical issue of tactics. Maybe the lore can be negotiated with, but it can't just be ignored. Though, its possible there can be other ways in game to reveal hidden players.

    Run speed, do people mean the normal movt speed, or sprint spped? Seems fine to me, movement across the map is already pretty quick, I dont think it should be quicker (for a lot of reasons). Light Armor has some skllls that increase it. The only thing I don't like is you can't be naked and use your light armor skills. It makes no sense and leads to weird situations where your armor breaks and you can't Sprint anymore, and because you're not wearing armor, you go slower.
     
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    I'm curious as to what you mean by "spreading (yourself) too thin." here. I mean... unless you have literally tried to get over 80 in every single attack skill in every single melee tree, I wonder about spreading yourself too thin. Perhaps if you're like a level 110+. If you're under that, I highly doubt your have had a chance to spread yourself too thin the way this game works.
     
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    @Chris for balance issues you might want to consider the maximum movement speed capped differently maybe depending on armor. Light having the highest value and heavy being slower.
     
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    Ya sure... I mean wop don't need to be shouted.. or do they?
     
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    Im assuming they need to be audible though?

    Shouting seems to me more the distance your barks are visible to others / picked up in the chat log.
     
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    It's a time thing. I don't get much adventuring time because I'm running the factory and stores. So by having in the 90's in both Polearm and Ranged, I've made myself considerably weaker than if I'd just spent them all in one place. So now I am moving those points over to Polearm.
     
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    Understood. Time is quite an important and valuable asset...
     
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    What if the Words of Power stay the same, but the animation and effect look like casting another spell (say "Light"), and then the light orb "bursts" and reveals those nearby. If they pay attention to the WOP, they can tell, but if not, they'll just assume someone is summoning a light globe. Nothing out of the ordinary.
     
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    you can already cast any ranged damage spell and reveal a hidden person. This works much more effective since, with fire bonuses, you can get 50 meters +.

    at that range nameplates, let alone wop, don't even render.
     
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    In a sense, you could. It happens for 20 seconds if you try to quit out now. It's just that your avatar would be standing there.

    In another game, if you were aggro-flagged, even if you logged off, you'd still be in-game, and attackable, even in safe houses. This made aggroing players something not to take lightly (also given that it was full-loot PVP).
     
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    Aye... and as a tanky warrior I have two speed buffs to counteract much of that speed.

    I'm wondering how much faster an archer should be than me with berserker and a wolf speed potion or fleet flute...
     
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    20%? Which would be achievable with the current innates and a slightly biased sprint power (which sounds like it will be the case). In my opinion, the disparity should be over-comeable with deft usage of e.g. the moon sneak up behind skill, ice arrow, hamstring, or the polearm pull, or blink.
     
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    Ya but what if you don't necessarily want the other player to know that you have pinged them?

    Unless it's not "working as intended" reveal hidden does not always break stealth entirely.
     
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    I agree but if u do this please fix the mage wearing heavy armor and 2 wand thing at the same time.

    I mean if ur gonna fix things based on whats logical get both ends of the spectrum.
     
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    What are the modifications? Did you update the document?
     
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    Sounds good. Dex only gives crit chance rght now (nothing about dodge, as the description says). Something new to dex would be awesome, and dex can be lvled by all players, not just archers.
     
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    And only at the price of 10x the experience of normal skills!
     
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    In this context nothing would be changed... Disabling shot will be still fundamental for archer + blink.
     
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