Random Discussion About Chris' Daily Blog

Discussion in 'Developer Depot' started by Chris, Apr 5, 2017.

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  1. Sorthious

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    I have no problem with your planting style by they way. Not sure if it would actually provide an optimal amount of sunlight, but it is, at least, more realistic than having planting beds entirely covering the ones below it.
     
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    You all are agro-amateurs compared to the only other resident in my POT.
     
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    Yeah the stacking thing is one thing which is bad, but the vertically placed ones just was one step too far.
     
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    I am sure it's on their list, just not a high priority at the moment.
     
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    Hydroponics! and mushrooms...

    Aquaculture. Need our seaweed. and black pearls...
     
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    Thank for sharing your greenhouse. I want exactly 100 in a greenhouse but that is so I know when I leave I have used exactly 100 water. When you plant 1000 plants and you have 2 buckets of water left it can take longer to find what you missed than it did to plant.
     
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    Two bad bugs (Pots/Planter Beds hang from Doric Column and upright Planter Beds) destroyed the best thing that had happened to agriculture. We might as well nerf the indoor/basement farming as there are no sunlight.

    Again, it always boil down to sell more land lots for revenue.
     
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    No, it boils down to actually fix an exploit.
    It's funny how people talk about "nerf" and other things while it clearly isn't any of that.

    After the fix you just have to play the farming game how it was supposed to.
    With or without Greenhouses is your own choice.

    I prefer no Greenhouses at all, but each to his own:

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    Currently with stacking 3 layers i can get close to 750-770 farm spots in my greenhouses on town lot .... after the ''fix'' if stacking will no longer be an option ill be able to get about 500 planting plots...800-500 = 300 planting lots lost ...that is definetly a huge NERF - a nerf is a change to a game that reduces the desirability or effectiveness of a particular game element....
     
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    With using something like called "common sense" it should be clear to everyone that stacking planting beds on top of each other was never supposed to be an wanted effect nor an wanted game element.
    Only because a fix for an EXPLOIT results in less effectiveness doesn't automatical mean it's a nerf.

    Again, it's a fix for an well known EXPLOIT.
    It isn't just a balance fix, if it was just that i would agree with you.
    No it is fixing an EXPLOIT!

    If we are that far already to not see the difference here between fixing an "EXPLOIT" and an balance fix in form of "nerf" why did we even bother fixing the Ring of Fire exploit, the control points exploits and many other exploits?
    Were all of them just "nerfs" ?

    Really now?
     
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    Ok its a ''bufff'' then . Chris is ''buffing'' farming. :)
     
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    It's neither a buff nor an nerf, it is a fix for an EXPLOIT
     
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    A town lot has 800 item limit has anyone used an exploit to break that limit ? NO .. ... Are we suppose to be able to farm 800 out of 800 from a town lot ? I assume YES ..if not id like to know what a reasonable amount we should be able to farm out of a lot ?

    The only problem i see is in time dedicated to farming ..vertical farming and stacking planters on columns greatly reduces time spent farming - this can be called an exploit .

    Stacking planters in a greenhouse (2-3 layers) is the same amount of work if not more then if you would just have 1 layer ...that is not an exploit ... So im hoping Chris will understand the difference and wont ''fix everything'' like he ''fixed'' brewing .
     
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    Yes it's all cool and froody if it is about farming, isn't it?
    As it would be some kind of peccadillo.

    LoL.

    Folks, it is at least bending the system untill it breaks. And if i see some of the screenshots i would go as far as saying some of them are exploits.
    I can't see why this seems to be ok but the multitude of other exploits and game bending stuff that happened in the past isn't.
     
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    Look at my screenshot above, there i planted two town lots with an total of 1600 planting seeds, 800 for each town lot.
    Only because the exploit gets fixed doesn't suddenly mean you can't plant 800 seeds in an town lot.

    Now if after the height fix or whatever you still manage to build up more than 1 layer with pillars and what not in an Greenhouse then i guess i can live with it.
    But if the plants when grown stick through the beds above them then it's just wrong and should be fixed.

    I know you will not like the answer, but just don't use Greenhouses then.
     
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    OK ill bite which of the screenshots previously posted you consider an exploit and what is it exploiting >?
     
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    The general idea of farming?! Good gawd it is so obvious that I am not willing to discuss it.
    Stacking planting pots and beds three rows high is clearly not working as intended.
    That being said, wasting your full townlot with planting beds side by side is working as intended. I wouldn't do it, but that's a different topic.
     
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    Greetings all, So if stacking is OK to do because you can it should be OK for me to 1 hit you because I use a exploit or to fly like the devs can as well? Until the Kobolds create grow lights, stacking planters so that no sunlight can reach the ones on the bottom should mean that they do not produce. How about the devs use the shader function to determine if a plant grows or not?
     
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    I find it difficult to believe that you @Elrond don't see "stacking" beds as unintended and an exploit (since I'm sure even you realize that it was unintended to begin with).....
    Seriously ? :confused:

    We all have a dog in this fight, those of us who grow.

    I knew about stacking, but was content to just grow what I could (normally) without resorting to the silliness of it.

    I don't grow for "resale", but for those who do - who weren't aware of this "unintended" behavior of beds - you have had a decided advantage in the marketplace.

    And, in the end, I think that is what this "fix" is (or should be) about.
     
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    You must know alot about farming ..i agree no sense in discussing it further.

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