Request for Arms

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  1. Vendetta Beretta

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    Thanks in advance. I'm at the virtual collector tier and I'm supposed to have a crest, but I'm going to up my pledge anyway.

    As for the charge, I want to keep it simple black and white. All black background, and I want my crest to look like the Jolly Roger pirate flag. Except I want two kryss blades and a Guy Fawkes Mask (all in white, and black).

    The Guy Fawkes mask is paying homage to V for Vendetta. Thanks.
     
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    Sorry about the wait, several, probably all by now, of the college members have several things going on that seems to have taken up all our time.

    In terms of your requested crest, it should not be a problem, a quick note that we may have to get creative because in general we would not be able to have a plain black background with a single white charge, as that would be one differentiation from a current device, but I'm already thinking of ways to still get what you want. If nobody else takes it on them, I will find the time, but I'm not sure where that time is. :D
     
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    Sounds fine. I thought the black and white would help stay within the rules easier. If the rules allow to add more colors than that I'm totally fine with it. The Guy Fawkes mask should be in the public domain so I think that should be okay. Also if I understand the CoA system, if it is added to the repository of images I think it might become a popular reusable image considering how it is percieved by people due to the hacker group Anonymous using it as their symbol.

    Either way I would be happy to have the symbol as long as it keeps the basic idea with the mask with the pirate flag idea.
     
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    This is not finished, but gives the general idea.
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    A plain black background with a single white charge we can't do, but that does not matter because we could do it with 2 white charges and I believe it would be alright.
    Would that would mean tho, is that they won't be right ontop of each other. I might have forgotten something and we can find another way of doing this.
     
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    Both the skull and the crossed swords should be larger.
     
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    As a side note, Time Warner owns the image of the Guy Fawkes mask we cannot use it.
     
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    Really? That's interesting.
     
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    IS there any chance of going forward with a parody of the mask, where the appearance is similar but has the mustach pointing downward instead of upward and opening it's mouth with fangs?

    Similar to the the image of the weeping angel's fangs. ... maybe only need the top part of the mouth to show up possibly.

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    Isn't it interesting to know the Guy Fawkes mask, which is used in citizen protests and used as a sign of uprising and anonymity around the world is created and owned by one of the largest and wealthiest corporations on the planet? Irony in it's purest form. TW gets the last laugh.
     
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    A parody is possible, there are "guidelines" to change a copyright or trademark enough to be considered different. Short version of the legal language is change about 35%, not including color, and you should be ok. Something like this will take us a few days to get something creative enough which fits into the heraldic rules and skirts the legal bit.
    In the meantime; BAJAN, can you work a mock up with one of our comedy or tragedy mask charges so Vendetta can get a feel for layout and color choice?
     
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    The sad/happy theatre masks might suffice.
     
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    I had thought I had posted this suggestion to use "a comedy mask argent eyebrows, mustache, and 'soul patch' sable." but evidently I was dreaming.
     
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    It wasn't created by them though. That version is owned by them.
     
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    yeah but I'm hoping to get a similar feel to the Guy Fawkes mask.
     
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    I was thinking of trying that out, depending on how Vendetta likes it, add whatever might be needed, sidenote to Vendetta: Don't rule it out until you see it, it immediately popped into my mind when you mentioned the guy fawks mask.
    Anyway, I haven't gotten to it, I have MUCH less time then I did before, I should probably PM you rather than waiting for you to get on IRC :D
     
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    Perfect. If you have something pop in your mind go with it. I like those creative spark moments. Thanks very much.
     
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    What about this? (both charges are on the Weebly)

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    You know what, it's a little different than my first thought, but I like it a lot. Especially the two faced mask (that also seems to have a similarity to the Guy Fawkes mask). Not to mention some cool semetry... yes this captures the essence of what I desired exactly. Let's submit that! I like it. thanks. Does it need to be approved, or since it is existing art does it get a fast track?
     
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    #1 Either like this or with minor tweaks should be enough differentiation from the Sable, Argent charge Device.
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    #2 Either like this or with minor tweaks should be enough differentiation from the Sable, Argent charge Device.
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    #3 I'm 99% sure this alright.
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    #4 I'm 99% sure this alright.
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    I do know that it's poorly aligned and placed, my program is giving me troubles and I don't have time to fix it right now.
     
  20. Vendetta Beretta

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    I kind of liked the original look best. I'm also a fan of the kryss blades.

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