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[Resolved 69164] Soltown: Talking to Abigail - she is still worried about her daughter ...

Discussion in '*** Bug Report Archive (After R75) ***' started by Paladin Michael, May 30, 2021.

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  1. Paladin Michael

    Paladin Michael Bug Hunter

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    Blocker? --
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    The Charlotte quest was done a long time before (also after quest reset a second time).

    Steps to Reproduce:

    Talk to Abigail. She says: "Good day to you, traveler. I hope that you are well. My name is Abigail, and I confess I am full of worry about my daughter."

    Clicking "worry" she says: "My daughter and I were separated after the battle at Solace Bridge. ..."

    Clicking "help" she says the same: "My daughter and I were separated ..."
    This time we get a choice: "I bet she's still there.", "Maybe she's dead?" and "I hope she's safe."


    --> I suppose, this happens, because of a bug in one of the last releases, where we started again in Solace Bridge in the starter scene. <--



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  2. Alley Oop

    Alley Oop Bug Hunter Bug Moderator

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    verified. @Paladin Michael is referring to this bug, so there are several players recently who have loaded into the battle scene inappropriately and probably exited to menu and started on overworld rather than re-complete it, me included. i suspect if i HAD completed it, i would still have messed up quest flags, just different ones.
     
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    Sannio Lead Quest and Level Designer Moderator SOTA Developer

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    @Paladin Michael , I need the full text from each of Abigail's responses in order to understand your quest state with her. For example, she has 4 responses for "worry."
    • If you haven't saved Charlotte, or finished the quest to talk to Abigail about Charlotte: "My daughter and I were separated after the battle at Solace Bridge. Charlotte is so young, I fear that she will not do well on her own."
    • If you saved Charlotte, but did finish the quest to talk to Abigail about Charlotte: "My daughter and I were separated after the battle at Solace Bridge. Charlotte is so young, I fear that she will not do well on her own, wherever she may be."
    • One of two "fallback" choices are randomly selected in all other cases.
      • "My daughter and I were separated after the battle at Solace Bridge, but now I know Charlotte survived. She'll be safe with relatives in Ardoris... but I'll still worry for my baby."
      • "My daughter and I were separated after the battle at Solace Bridge, but I know Charlotte survived. Still, I'll be worried for my baby until we're reunited."
    Much of the time, knowing the entire response will tell me which quest flags you have.

    In any case, I think that players who get these unexpected responses will only get them the one time as the quest will complete (or re-complete?) itself. Please tell me if I'm wrong.
     
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    looks good to me: this is what i have now, going back a second time, but i'll wait for the OP to respond

     
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    @Sannio,
    Abigail tells,
    using keyword "daughter":
    My daughter and I were separated just after the battle at Solace Bridge. Charlotte is so young, I fear she will not do well on her own.
    Choices:
    I bet she's still there - Maybe she's dead? - I hope she's safe.

    using keyword "hello":
    Good day to you, traveler. I hope that you are well. My name is Abigail, and I confess I am full of worry about my daughter.

    using keyword "worry":
    My daughter and I were separated after the battle at Solace Bridge. Charlotte is so young, I fear that she will not do well on her own."


    There is no quest (current) task open, but I can ask the keywords as often as I want - nothing changes, like I never told her about Charlotte.
     
  6. Sannio

    Sannio Lead Quest and Level Designer Moderator SOTA Developer

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    Thanks for the update! My responses below clarify what Abigail thinks your character's quest state is, as regarding Charlotte. In shore, she thinks you were in Battle of Solace Bridge but doesn't consider that you helped Charlotte, so her responses are generic concern for her daughter.

    If you actually did help Charlotte get through the village and to Edvard as the exit boat, was it a very long time ago or recently? If you helped her a really long time ago, we've added some extra quest flag/logic over time and I wonder if your character doesn't have the flags Abigail is checking for.


    Abigail sees that you have a certain flag indicating you you were in Battle of Solace Bridge but does not see the flag that means you offered to help Charlotte escape. Also, you haven't completed the quest to tell Abigail about Charlotte's fate.

    Abigail doesn't see the flag that says you saved Charlotte. Also, you haven't completed the quest to tell Abigail about Charlotte's fate.

    Abigail doesn't see the flag that says you saved Charlotte. Also, you haven't completed the quest to tell Abigail about Charlotte's fate.

     
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    @Sannio,

    1. I did the complete quest two times (including quest reset) years ago.
    2. The problem occured with the bug I mentioned above (Alley Ooop posted the
    link above - thank you!).
    As I started the beginner scene in Solace bridge (again), I talked to Charlotte, but she didn't follow.
    So I couldn't bring her to Edvard and this is why the quest state is how it is.

    So I assume the former quest flag was overwritten. Unfortunately I can't heal it ...
     
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    Sannio Lead Quest and Level Designer Moderator SOTA Developer

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    @Paladin Michael , thanks for all the extra info. I'll try to put some time aside to log into your character and check your quest status and see if I can sort things out. I don't have an estimate as to when that could happen. Issue #69164
     
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    Thank you, Sannio, there is no hurry :) I think this is a special case and no new user should be affected.
     
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