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[Resolved] Ferig will not complete Quest of Courage

Discussion in '*** Bug Report Archive (After R75) ***' started by Justiciar, Dec 6, 2020.

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    Title: Ferig will not complete Quest of Courage (char: "Justiciar Songbird")
    Reproduction Rate: First time I've seen it and I've played through the quest lines with 3 other chars already. Maybe it was because I teleported in to Valhold while encumbered or near RAM limits? <Shrug>.
    Blocker? Yes.
    Details: "Justiciar Songbird" is in Valhold but Ferig won't complete the Quest of Courage by killing Mara. Saying "fourth baton" and "arrive" to Essen causes him to close the conversation but Ferig won't do anything. Grannus is in a coma, cuddling his staff. Ferig will sort of follow me if I head out a bit but otherwise is not responsive even if I try to talk to him. He just says "I have nought to say".
    Steps to Reproduce: Teleported into Valhold after Koribar and completed Mara and Essen but Ferig won't say anything.
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    OS: Windows 10 (10.0.0) 64bit
    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600 CPU @ 3.30GHz (4) System RAM: 16336
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 GPU RAM: 4053
    SotA.Win.64.1317.Date.12.02.20
    Area: Novia_R10_Valhold_Palace/Step2
    Area Display Name: Valhold Palace
    Loc: (202.7, 30.1, 231.4)
    Debug: Tm92aWFfUjEwX1ZhbGhvbGRfUGFsYWNlfFN0ZXAyfCgyMDIuNjksIDMwLjA4OCwgMjMxLjM4Myl8KDAsIC0wLjMyNiwgMCwgMC45NDUpfC04MDkuMDgyOHwyMC4wMDMxM3wxLjI1
     
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    Can you possibly exit the game while in that scene, then resume there and try again?
     
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    Still broken.
    Mara may auto-trigger when within conversation range and freshly restarted. Mara has only one option "Come Forth" triggering Essen.
    Essen may auto-trigger when within conversation range and freshly restarted. Essen has conversation options ending in Arrived triggering Ferig.
    Ferig may auto-trigger when within conversation range and freshly restarted. Ferig says "I have naught to say" (if freshly restarted or specifically talked to) or simply does not trigger (if talking to Essen while not freshly restarted) and has no conversation options listed.
    The weird thing is that when I freshly go in the chars will auto-trigger as follows: Essen will trigger first and quickly de-trigger, followed by Mara. My char will not move to converse with Ferig but the conversation box will say "Ferig" while talking to Mara (Mara's will disappear).
     
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    I've actually been writing a guide for the entire Courage quest. Here is the exact steps I documented to have this part of the quest advance:

    After you arrive in the throne room, wait a few moments and then Mara will speak to you. Click the I have news of Demig.... and come forth keywords. Essen will now enter the scene. Click the Demig has fallen!, kobolds, Demig, dealings, fourth baton and arrive/arrived keywords. Lord Ferig will appear. Click stand back and move away from Lord Ferig and Mara. After Mara is killed go to Grannus and speak to him.

    EDIT: I think I see what is happening. @Justiciar it looks like you are manually typing in keywords? Could you possibly follow the above stated steps by clicking only on keywords as stated above and see if that resolves this?
     
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    @Justiciar , please return to Valhold Palace and say "stand back" to Ferig. I think that will advance the quest for you. Let me know the result, please! :)
     
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    Hello.
    @Anpu, I completed everything but when Essen transferred his speech to Ferig, Ferig said "I have naught to say" instead of going into the speech about how Mara's warrant gave him the authority to deal with traitors. Note: I did deliver the warrant to Ferig plus a bottle of Kobold wine so that part of the quest was complete. Restarting simply reactivates the characters' auto-select and for some reason Ferig still has no conversation options and says "I have naught to say".
    @Sannio, Thanks. Your suggestion worked. It bypassed Ferig's speech but that's ok.
    Ferig completed his task and Grannus gave me the scepter and the 400k xp and sent me on the Quest of the Oracle.
    So now if someone else has this issue then you know how to bypass it.
    Thanks.
     
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    @Justiciar , thanks for the update!

    I have a plan to improve the conversations in the throneroom of Grannus, mostly to help guide players. I'm not sure when I'll get around to it, but situations like yours make it clear that there's a need for it!
     
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    I decided to prioritize the updates to the throne room and worked on them for a part of yesterday. Here are some highlights of what will be changed for next release:
    • Hints for each step will appear in the form of compass markers. (They won't be full tasks, just helpful direction.)
    • If you exit a conversation or leave the scene, you'll get a smarter reenter-the-conversation response from NPCs.
    • Some keywords were changed to better accommodate "first time conversing" and "returning to a conversation" situations.
      • Mara's "come forth" keyword will be changed to "Essen" keyword.
      • Essen's "arrive" keyword will be changed to "Ferig" keyword.
      • Ferig's "stand back" keyword will be changed to "what needs to be done" keyword.
    • Added some fallback responses along the lines of "I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean A or B?" This is to help players get back on track if they lose their place deeper into a conversation.
    Ultimately, you should never have a time when you're wondering, "What do I say or do now?"

    Also, I did a small change with the lighting--when you're returning to the throne room, I turned off almost all the other lights in the castle to help direct you right to the throne room.
     
    Sannio, Dec 10, 2020
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