Sir Daevin Aruth Coat of Arms

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  1. Daevin Aruth

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    CoA submission: My current CoA as of this post:

    Sir Daevin Aruth CoA

    Do you have any recommendations of the CoA I have posted?

    NOTE: Having some difficulty posting a picture here. Will post the picture once I sort out the linking from flickr.
     
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    [​IMG]
    There you go.
    I like it, one little recommendation or suggestion from myself.
    Here's what I've come up with.
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    The sable charges would be replaced with your own.
     
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    the cat came from the wiki charges, it is a heraldic lynx...Lynx rampant
    the staff is also from the wiki...mage staff
    the magic symbol is also on the wiki...magic2
     
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    Thanks Ronan, in the flickr they did not look sharp enough to be our charges, I should have looked, I wasn't meant to have enough time, but it seems I'm waiting for someone anyhow.

    And for Sir Daevin,
    This is my own mock-up of your device with the charges.
    I cannot guarantee how the generator will create it, but we will try to get it right.
    Here is the version which I believe will work.
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    Hope you like it :)
     
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    Just throwing in my opinion:
    Arranging the lynx so it appears to be holding the staff is probably not something we can do.

    As Bajan Grace proposes I think will work, but I would suggest trying the staff turned bendwise sinister.
    Also, the staff will probably change, as that one does not meet the standards we seem to be setting.
    It will likely be filled in rather than be an outline..
     
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    Very happy for your input Sir Frank.
    If it isn't clear to anyone, we should reiterate that charges are not final and as of right now they're subject to change, and are just examples of what will be.
    I completely agree that the staff should be filled in.
    After hearing from Daevin I could turn the staff if need be.

    I personally like it sorted in each area on their own, I tried it the other way and it seemed cluttered to me.
    Waiting to hear from Sir Daevin :)
     
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    My attempt:

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    I think I would switch the lynx and sigil, and turn the lynx to sinister, so it would be larger.
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    Frank is that per pall reversed azure, argent, and argent? Are field divisions like that with same colors connected allowed in general? Just curious for my own learning.
     
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    Color adjacent to color is acceptable, its color ON color that is not ;)
     
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    It is. We're using that because the builder we have access to doesn't do canton.

    And, we don't have any rule against it yet!
    There are many, many, divisions that we aren't using.
    So many, I don't think there is any way to put them in the builder.
    So, I hope we stay flexible.
     
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    I didn't mean color on color. (Argent is a metal anyway. :p) I meant same color/metal on, against, or next to itself in, well, this way. That effectively creates unusual field divisions.
    I'll take the rules answer. That ain't no canton, though. I've been staring at ordinaries and divisions learning their names for the last week. :p I still could be missing it. There's loads of scattered material out there.
     
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    Sir Frank Master of the Mint

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    The original features a canton.
     
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    Oh yeah, it does. I was talking about the designs that have been presented as doable.

    It's a conundrum!
     
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    The Draconny Queen disagrees in at least some instances, Ronan.
     
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    I really like your second image Frank.
    Very happy we could collaborate and we got something so nice.
    Hopefully Sir Daevin shares my feeling.
     
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    Thank you Bajan Grace for posting the CoA for me. Please excuse and correct all my faux pas as I am very new to the heraldic process and trying to stay true to form and within Britannian lore. My initial mock up thoughts were:
    1: As a magic user...
    2: In Britannian history, the charge (magic symbol) on the azure canton is strongly tied to truth and honesty, and has strong ties with the magical arts and not one particular order of magic.
    3: The lynx (cat) was holding the staff, again as a symbol of liberty, watchfulness, vigilance and courage by the use of magic.
    4: The lynx (cat) is standing on argent to symbolize spirituality and gules, although perhaps sanguine might be more appropriate for my blood spilling character.
    5: I also have the (un-yet-published) motto "Nullius Pavet Occursum" which means, "He fears not meeting with any one".
    As you can see in my mind hopefully a lot of thought went into the design process.
    On to the change that have been purposed...
    There are some obvious limitations on what is possible with what I envisioned and what can be done. The most interesting concept and I approve of is the second CoA proposed by Sir Frank with the staff bendwise sinister, lynx as sinister and sigil lower right. I also think without the canton the field divisions became more interesting and eye catching for discussion.
    If you haven't figured it out yet I'm a fan of DragonLance character Raistlin Majere...
    Thank you all for some good compromisable changes to keep within the bounds of heraldic rules.
     
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    Can I suggest making the field per bend sinister azure and argent rather than per pall inverted azure, argent, and argent?
     
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    It's always nice to hear all the thoughts behind a coat of arms.
    I'm very happy that from all the proposed concepts that one of them did catch your eye and you can approve of.
    I too agree that Frank's amazing coat of arms is the best of the bunch.
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    However if there is anything that you would like to discuss about changes, feel free to leave a post here explaining it, or trying it out yourself, or pm me. I will probably be busy for the remainder of the day, it's 7 AM as of right now, but either later or tomorrow I can get right on it.
    That's up to Sir Daevin, if he requests I can make a visual aid.
    Of course I'm always happy to see other mock-ups, either get inspired or help refine your own.
     
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    I am currently please with this CoA and wish to keep it, with the ability to modify it as the blazon builder is still a work in progress.
     
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    How is the beast in dexter chief to be blazoned?
    A catamount rampant contourney?
    A natural lynx in the same attitude?
     
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