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[Resubmitted 69629] Tree Curtain is Black Void

Discussion in 'World Building, Scenes, Environment, & Overworld' started by Garfunkel Humperdinck, Aug 29, 2021.

  1. Garfunkel Humperdinck

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    08/29/2021 18:18
    Title: North Hinterlands - Black Void in Woods
    Reproduction Rate: 100%
    Blocker? No
    Details: This scene is full of completely black trees mixed in with normal trees. Perhaps intentional to make the scene look darker in general.
    Steps to Reproduce: Go to area
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    OS: Windows 10 (10.0.0) 64bit
    CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor (8) System RAM: 32661
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GPU RAM: 6052
    SotA.Win.64.1436.Date.08.28.21
    Area: Novia_R6_Forest01_02
    Area Display Name: North Hinterlands
    Loc: (-184.8, 32.8, -13.8)
    Debug: Tm92aWFfUjZfRm9yZXN0MDFfMDJ8fCgtMTg0LjgyMywgMzIuODI4LCAtMTMuODI3KXwoMCwgLTAuODA2LCAwLCAwLjU5Mil8LTEwMC40OTk0fC00LjQ0ODc1Mnw4LjU4MDc2MQ==
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    Ravalox Chief Cook and Bottle Washer Moderator SOTA Developer

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    Issue# 69629 created
     
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    Alley Oop Bug Hunter Bug Moderator

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    seen fixed in 1458
     
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    reopening, may have a regression.

    Area: Deep Ravenswood (HiddenVale_Forest02_Tier5) Loc: (154.06, 27.588, 131.772) DBG: SGlkZGVuVmFsZV9Gb3Jlc3QwMl9UaWVyNXx8KDE1NC4wNiwgMjcuNTg4LCAxMzEuNzcyKXwoMCwgMC45MDgsIDAsIDAuNDE5KXwtNTkzLjA4N3wxMi44OTgyOHwxNC4yNzA4Nw==

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    Title: Blood River - tree curtain not visible at night
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    Details: The tree curtain at the loc looks like a completely black wall at night, and looks like a hole into nothingness. Now that the sun has risen I can see that it wasn't totally black.
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    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz (4) System RAM: 32725
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    SotA.Win.64.1609.Date.11.23.22
    Area: Novia_R7_Forest01_Bloodriver_After
    Area Display Name: Blood River
    Loc: (110.5, 54.1, 130.9)
    Debug: Tm92aWFfUjdfRm9yZXN0MDFfQmxvb2RyaXZlcl9BZnRlcnx8KDExMC41MSwgNTQuMDgsIDEzMC44NTYpfCgwLCAwLjA2MiwgMCwgMC45OTgpfDcuMjAxNDI4fDMyLjU5MDI5fDcuMDUzNg==
     
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    @Sannio has been poking at this recently to see what the problem is. i THINK he has another try queued up for next release.

    (sannio, the spot elwyn just reported ALSO looks oddly low-res, at the times of day when it is visible.)
     
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    I just went back to check the one in Blood River. By standing next to it and rotating the camera, there was one point where I could see the other side of the black wall, and the curtain was behind it. So it might not be the curtain missing, it may be a black surface in front of it.

    Checking Deep Ravenswood, there's a nice example at 141.4, 31.3, 35.9 where you can look NE and see how there are black surfaces that hide the tree curtain.

    Another is at -14.2, 33.0, 179.3 right by the north entrance, where I can see what look like narrow vertical strips of black in the tree curtain. This is much stranger than I was expecting to see. But this is VERY time of day dependent, I was looking at :45 - :05 wall clock time. Now at :07 I look up again, and almost everything looks fine. And one of those vertical black strips has become what seems to be a very dark (and 3-D flat) tree trunk. So it seems the curtain is made with a few "cel" layers. Some turn solid black at game night, and some are still black in the daylight. The north entrance seems to be a good place to examine this effect.
     
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    Thanks for the extra info! As an important note, when you share the full /loc details, the DBG string will put us at your location AND point the camera in the same direction your camera was pointed, so we'll see what you saw (assuming the bug happens for us).
     
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    12/16/2022 12:37
    Title: Trees Still Black
    Reproduction Rate: 100%
    Blocker? No
    Details: Not sure if this is the 'tree curtain' referred to in Release 109 patch notes, but this area still look the same to me. But if you cast the 'Light' spell and stand very close to the black trees they will slightly illuminate as shown in my second pic for comparison. And it does look like a sheer curtain in front of the tree as mentioned earlier. Notice the jagged shaded area just to the right of my avatar's head.
    Steps to Reproduce: Look at the second layer of tree curtain.
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    OS: Windows 10 (10.0.0) 64bit
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor (12) System RAM: 32678
    GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6600 GPU RAM: 8146
    SotA.Win.64.1616.Date.12.14.22
    Area: Novia_R6_Forest01_02
    Area Display Name: North Hinterlands
    Loc: (-183.9, 32.6, -14.8)
    Debug: Tm92aWFfUjZfRm9yZXN0MDFfMDJ8fCgtMTgzLjkwMywgMzIuNTY1LCAtMTQuNzgxKXwoMCwgMC40MjksIDAsIC0wLjkwMyl8LTgxNy42NTMxfDEzLjg0MDc4fDcuNzgzODI5

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    Different angle of the same spot. It looks like light reflection is broken on some sections of the tree curtain.

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