@BatGojko Absolutely. I'd much rather have no PVP than bad, or even mediocre PVP. I'm here as a Single Player Ultima fan, not a UO fan and I'm sure my overall opinions would get me labelled a "carebare" by some (and it goes to show how little I have to do with PVP and MMOs in general that I'd never heard that term until coming to the SotA forums). I do see how it could benefit aspects of the game I enjoy if done right though and I'm fairly certain there's a middle ground where a lot of us can be happy. Obviously, anyone who is completely opposed to players having any negative impact on each other whatsoever is never going to be able to get along with anyone who thinks the whole game should be a constant free for all death match, but I think most of us are somewhere in between.