I grew up in Kalispell Mishri miss that area! Pretty much, I agree it was the way it was done that made Trammel so horrible. but also they did introduce 2 new shards at the time that had no trammel. and that also caused problems because a LOT of the hard core folks moved there which made for even further seperating the population. I think the reason the "pvp" crowd is so vocal and gets so annoyed with the non-pvp crowd is every game out there tends to cater to the non-pvpers. there are a handful of games left that cater more to the pvp Crowd. Eve online has been going strong for over 10 years. but they will never be a "wow" level game population wise. Mortal Online tried to be the "UO 2" but it failed horrible. I am ok with that I would love a nice nitch game that caters to the pvpers from UO. for the people who hate PvP no offense but you already have every other game out there.... For me the BIGGEST thing about open PvP is the consquense's and I dont just mean gear. I played WOW for a few years but I got so sick of all the little douche bag kids who could get away with doing what they wanted.. I really love the model where if you want to be a douche you can but dont ever leave town... Also please stop making Crafting a secondary little crap side job... I want all gear to be crafter made and if you take the time to get better mats you have a better product.. there is nothing better then a TRUE player run econmy! It would be interesting if they could do a breakdown of the supporters I would be curious to see if one side or the other is contributing more not to push through that sides agenda but I have my guess and I would honestly think it would be cool to see who is more invested in this game.