Why no pvp fighter should flag with the propose ransom changes.

Discussion in 'PvP Gameplay' started by Andartianna, Jan 12, 2018.

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  1. StrangerDiamond

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    We had similar guild wars and rules of engagement, I was 15 years old back then and I would understand the maturity of those rules. Seeing how people do not support those rules to be hard-coded into the game in relation to virtue sure sounds alien to me.

    You can opt out, yea sure... great solution that will make the playstyle accessible to all, NOT :p
     
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    My guess is that water and fire elementals would probably be the best due to their ranged attacks.
     
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    Yah I hate when people say opt out is a choice. That is only a choice if you didn't actually want to pvp. If the answer to being able to pvp is only opt out something is broken.
     
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    At 120 adv lvl 5k or 10k ransoms are prohibitive for you? that would be paintful for a low-mid level but for you? from a new players perspective think about it, if they see the highest players in the server (top10 for example) complaining about the new ransoms prices, it sounds really weird.

    I'm not in that top 10 and I'm willing to pay those prices, and even more, anytime I want to do pvp, is the risk vs reward we are used to have in any sandbox game with a good pvp system.
     
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    Ppl make it look far worst then its actually is ransom speaking. It just discourage ppl for trying pvp. At adv lvl 77 being flagged pvp since persistence. Took a few months break and now im back. I havent been jumped by blues, stole from by thief that often . And when it does happen it zpice up my gameplay
     
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    The fear of the unknown makes people run away from pvp sadly.
     
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    You think I fear the unknown ? :p

    I ran away from the land rush, DEV+, housing bubble, ressource bubble, CP xp farming, etc etc... and now PvP :/

    Edit : and I have NEVER played a game without full-0n pvp since UO.
     
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    So you are in the wrong place I guess :D
     
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    Most PvEers find senseless, random ganking and thievery to just be annoying, and would even if there were nothing at stake.

    The problem is less the risk of loss, and more the senselessness and lack of roleplay involved.

    Though I'm not saying risk of loss is not an issue at all; some people are afraid of getting their feet wet. Still, I think its more secondary than people say it is, secondary to the annoyance of random PvP.
     
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    Oh I am in the right place, but came in in the wrong time *sings*

    haha
     
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    Anyway, I'll link to this thread again, because this is what I thin PvP needs (a few other things, too, I'll create a new post later),

    Creating a Justice System
     
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    Right, thats why I always talk bout non-material rewards to pvp...

    people talk of gear and death decay... but that isn't loss...

    Loss is when you make bad decisions and you end up with consequences :) like many of us learned the hard way in UO.

    Being bounty hunted 24/7 for 3 months, having to send friend scouts to verify if your house has an ambush, having to use disguise kits to purchase equipment and get repairs... now that is risk vs reward :)
     
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    You never let me finish my ideas before you beat me to it :D
     
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    I think this may help you ;)

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    How much with a bundled avatar costume ? :D

    NEED
     
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    Maybe we can do a Ready Player One tie-in. (Ernie Cline has a tricked-out DeLorean.)

    I think the hard part is hitting 88 with a factory engine.
     
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    hahaha :D me likey

    something like this ?

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    Back on topic, PVP flagged sheep gonna be very sparse.
     
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    5/10k not an issue for Andar or myself or other top 10ers... lower level players just may have a problem with it though and they'll be the ones getting slaughtered by the top 10 and losing 10k+ via theft.

    Gonna start talking more people into this fun... now all I need is an argument for them to do so........... :confused:
     
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    Thats why you can choose which items/gear you want risk ;), all is about choices and in sota we are not forced to do anything. It's important to highlight this IMO.

    You think we gonna see a low level player with Warlock necklace doing pvp? personally I don't think so.

    We all want have fun doing pvp, but we are not all same "kind" of pvpers. Nothing bad about it, just different points of view and needs.
     
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