NPC Archers... wtf?

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  1. tableclown

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    Getting tired of this... Before the update, I never took this much dmg from archers... Im fighting mages/warriors and they do reasonable dmg but when an archer joins the fight, my health drops so fast... It makes no sense.
     
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    Welcome to the party...
     
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    What are you using for defensive buffs?
     
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    I'm a fire/death/melee bludgeon character. My self-heals and knockdowns are my defense. Except, when I go to cast, interrupt interrupt interrupt. Its too random. Gonna take a break from the game, dying 5 times in the same encounter instance really pissed me off.
     
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    You are tired of actually having to use some form of tactics? I like NPC archers doing a lot of damage. I actually have to move and think about the fight.
     
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    Unlock Death Shield... it will help a lot against archers.
     
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    I agree 100%. Not sure if this is a bug where their crits are hitting to often, or if they Changed something in the calculation that was never mentioned in the release
    Notes. But this is rediculous again.


    Difference between having to use tactics and just bad dice rolls on one character type. Where you can fight 1-2 yellow warriors or mages no problem, but on archer crit, crit, crit, dead. That is not tactics that is just stupid.
     
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    I was suggesting that you use the tactics, not them. I change my tactics up when fighting archers all the time.
     
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    Just as a point of reference, im light armor melee using terrain as defense and i tend to do fine
     
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    If you just added a few defensive skills into the mix and used cover whenever possible you'd be fine against them. Using death to heal yourself without using any defense is a tough way to do it.
     
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    Yeah, just exploit the flaws in the AI and you'll do fine, those flaws are far too fundemental for Port to fix any time soon.
     
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    Works in pvp too btw.
     
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    Im not sure if its related to me in chain, but I have a gm in just about every defense skill now and archers absolutely eat me up, they are far to OP. The Rise Skel archers are ridiculous, 10x harder then the mages and they are all about the same level.

    NPC archers have been op for some time now.
     
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    Well archers always have been hard in fights for me. I tend to always murder those the first then the mages and finally the warriors.
     
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    They are not far to OP. Instead of face tanking them, try moving a bit. You can line of sight them to split them up and get back shots. All the doorways in The Rise have corners you can hide in. The skeleton archers will run right by you. You can shoot it in the back and walk to the other side and repeat. The four by the Lich throne are easy to solo with this tactic. Makes for easy skeleton bone farming. They are way more exciting then the mages. There needs to be more mobs that don't require mindless farming.
     
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    I also use cc to knock a couple of them out if there are too many. A 14 second mez does wonders.

    Facetanking isnt the answer unless youre a shield user
     
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    Or bring an archer with you...
     
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    Been there and done that, they are far to op


    If 1000 hp mob which is probably at least low yellow to someone like me who lvl 105ish (with ever def buff to help at gm) can take me out in almost 5 seconds and requires exploiting (note: not illegal exploit) leashing to kill it, its probably too op.
     
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    Archers are overtuned. This is my opinion. And based on my opinion, I will be taking a break from the game. After last patch, even with 2 blessings (regen) and 2 food buffs (Dragon stew + 4 hour food)... Archers eat me alive. Not only that, they run away and this requires even more time for you to chase them while the other monsters pummel you. Bottom line: It isn't fun anymore.
     
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    I was farming them in my low 90s without a problem. I can kill them now. Leashing is not an exploit and the method above is not leashing. Maybe you are doing something wrong? I also thought the mages spam healing was fine.
     
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