Public Stats API

I must be a dummy... I'm not seeing artifacts, and I was curious about them (not for abuse, but just trying to find more artifacts!) Can you give me a hint on a specific Archetype that matches to an artifact?

 

I just used -st Artifacts

It lets me see the new artifacts that have dropped too:

 

they dropped - thats a sample of the 1000+ lines I pulled of every artifact that dropped in the last 2 weeks. For example - the boots artifact listed in that pic has this info:

• [122].ypos">"ypos": "160.573",
• [122].zpos">"zpos": "15.395",
• [122].xpos">"xpos": "233.12",
• [122].Archetype">"Archetype": "Equipable_Archetypes/Artifacts/Release41/ArchetypeArmor_Boots_Of_Skulking",
• [122].Quantity">"Quantity": "1",
• [122].EconomyGoldDelta">"EconomyGoldDelta": "8",
• [122].ItemId">"ItemId": "591275e9abb70d05c0fb4375",
• "@timestamp": "2017-05-10T02:07:37.000Z",
• [122].SceneName">"SceneName": "The Fall",
• [122].LocationEvent">"LocationEvent": "ItemGained_Loot",
• [122].timestamp">"timestamp": "May 9 21:07:37"

 

More pages added to Umuri's SotaSTATS.
Economy based ones:
Raw materials (1 hr, 24 hr, ALL)
http://umuri.com/SOTA/Stats/Top25/ALL-RawMaterialsGained.php
Gold by Scene (1 hr, 24 hr, ALL)
http://umuri.com/SOTA/Stats/Top25/ALL-SceneGoldGained.php
Oracle Tests Passed (1 hr, 24hr, ALL)
http://umuri.com/SOTA/Stats/Top25/ALL-OracleTestPassed.php
Interesting enough that means we can assume (20% error rate) that 600 people passed their oracle test in the last 24 hours! Nifty!

Re: the discussion on the rest.
@tuerdkughter - @Undone is quite aware of how it can be reconstructed, however rate limiting the API as discussed will limit that particular information leak. Althouhg it will still allow you to altert when certain scenes are active (such a shardfalls). Which just means an easy solution is to not report PlayerMove events in PVP Zones. I've been letting him know of any exploitable datasets/pairings that are available and what possible ways to fix it there would be while preserving our access, since my goal is as always putting everyone on equal footing. I would much rather we lose access to data than to have certain people have unfair advantages.

IMO I will disagree with Undone that loot tables are worth worrying about as the important ones have already been reconstructed through manual testing/records. PVP information (Logon/logoff times, hunting zones, which zones have people hunting right now) is way more important to make sure we properly santize.

Also, remember, this API will probably be locked down once he's done setting it up/testing it, and odds are it will be put behing auth tokens to track who uses what, and ensure proper usage. So applications that query every 15 seconds will probably be scrutinized and revoked before they get too far.

I'm personally still pushing for hoping he gets a time delay feature working, so that we are 24 hours or so behind on logs. Thats still plenty for analytics while removing most PVP advantage.

Also, in the interest of information sharing, since none of the others have bothered mentioning it yet: The R41 artifacts have only dropped so far in "The Fall". For those who don't get to dig in the data. I omitted artifacts from my scene list pending chris saying it was ok to list em but since everyone else is yapping about em, lets make it fair.

 

*snipped to what I was responding to*

I also agree, the loot tables are always being worked out via manual testing, whereas PVP info will more affect individual players.

I definitely agree with you, wholeheartedly, on a time delay. For the purposes of the game stats I'm interested in, running a day late is just fine.

I can't imagine listing where artifacts are dropping as being verboten, as we can kind of see the pattern (at least somewhat) just from talking amongst out selves in any of the larger guilds. Besides, it seems they are using them to encourage people to go to certain areas.

 

Just to clarify as I'm a little confused.

Some of this data should be hidden because those people who are PvP flagged would be able to find other likeminded pvp folk and go fight?
Isn't that the point of PvP?
Hasn't there been numerous posts on the forum already about no one being available to pvp?

 

Just because you're open to PvP, doesn't mean you want people to be able to use out-of-game-information to track you down. It's the one thing I've seen, so far, as being an unfair advantage, and it's worth putting a delay on the feed to keep it from being exploited.

 

Ummm - couldn't this get exploited by pvp guilds? ie 'theres someone in a pvp zone lets gank em' ?

 

If someone ask opt-in to being anonymous, is there a good reason why their location data should not also be removed? If that data would be used to find busy zones, could that not be handled by always showing their location at 0,0,0?

From what I can gather it is the location with timestamp data that is the majority concern. I'm trying to find a way to solve that issue without reducing the value of all of the other data.

 

Yep, that's why some kind of delay to make the info less useful for that is proposed.

Removing the location data prevents generating accurate area heat-maps (which is exactly the kind of statistical information we want to facilitate, I think). Removing the timestamps doesn't do that, nor does putting a delay on the feed.

 

If this were purely PvP location related data, I would agree. However, removing timestamps or severely delaying crafting and economic data considerably reduces it's value.

 

Given that this area is going to be .... detailed I think that it would be a good idea to create a new forum area. This would allow topics to be split up.

 

I agree, delay any data that has player location (but do keep the exact time) but for crafting and economic entries we do need live data.

 

Do Archetypes have a 1 to 1 relationship to the Item Name, if so could we get a table at some point to show people the names they see in game. If not could we get an attribute/key for the public name.

 

Does the API tell us anything that would help quantify the "Gap" between new players and vets?

It would be nice to have some hard data on this. That way we don't need to endlessly speculate about it in the forums.

 

This data, as well as the game online population, is one of the questions that will get you *crickets* as an answer. I'd even prefer a "No, because X reason" but you'll get crickets. Only @Chris knows this.

(someone prove me wrong, please!)